Qaeda Leader Beheads U.S. Civilian in Iraq

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Agathon
I don't want to see it, but where did you get the video DRoseDARs?

If there is a general place that one can get news videos that the networks won't show I'd like to know about it.

EDIT: site removed, probably inappropriate to post the address. I've seen enough of it though.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Enlist then, you chicken****!!!

There are plenty others who'll volunteer to do that sort of stuff who are better for that sort of work .

You would fit well in a torture video... ah never mind, I can't even bother to really believe it.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Plato
I agree whole heartedly. Turn the Marines loose. To hell with what the world thinks.

Why don't you google and try to find the full videos of the Americans killing prisoners? Why do morons always have to choose a side when both are obviously barbarians?

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris


Why don't you google and try to find the full videos of the Americans killing prisoners? Why do morons always have to choose a side when both are obviously barbarians?

Sadly this may get me banned for the first time ever, but you are an idiot. Pure and simple.

Respond if you like, but it will be for your own ego. You have just made my "ignore" list.

[Japher]

Oncle needs to change that flag and that ICBM 'tar...

[DinoDoc]

A question for the nuke'em crowd: What in your opinion makes us better than the enemy?

[Fake Boris]

Could someone tell me what has angered Plato so much? I mean it's a war, both sides do wrong stuff. You shouldn't overreact because you've seen more of one side.

The only thing I can see is that he was trolling when he said "turn the marines loose"... but then again do you put someone on ignore because he bites into your troll?

[Japher]

PLATO will come out of it. I, like many others, feel that the overreactions are favoring the enemy and being made by those on the side of the ally... that is why I am mad, terrorism is winning because of the "you can't do that" attitude that we are seeing, however the same people turn their backs on the enemy when they do something twice as grusome.

[Fake Boris]

I'm not sure I'm following... most on this forum, including me, haven't been terribly shocked or surprised about American abuses... usually we just say that it's a stupid and avoidable PR disaster. Oh, and we also take gloating rights to laugh at the idea of a 'just' war.

[The Mad Monk]

I think it may have been the "obviously barbarians" part.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
I think it may have been the "obviously barbarians" part.

We've all seen the pictures of maltreated prisoners... you judge if you think it's barbarian.

I think it's the point of the military, to form ruthless and brainwashed peons. I'm sure most of them would behead Iraqis if asked to, or do it on their own after seeing the video, if there was no one to prevent them.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
I think it's the point of the military, to form ruthless and brainwashed peons. I'm sure most of them would behead Iraqis if asked to, or do it on their own after seeing the video, if there was no one to prevent them.

The stupidity of this thread seems to be rising.

[Fake Boris]

No it's not. Militia training in third world countries include biting into living animals to get into the "stuff". There are so many examples like this. Training in the West doesn't go that far, but the atrocities of the battlefield can really "change" someone. What Americans did is not an isolated case, even within modern Western armies of the liberal democratic countries.

The idea is that in a war, the prime factor of moral stabilization - society - disappears. The guys in Iraq don't truly feel the moral oppresion of living in a normal world. That's why they shoot civilians and prisoners. That's also why a lot of otherwise normal men turn into rapists in the course of a war when given the opportunity.

[Spiffor]

Barbarians

These guys make the guillotine look like the epitome of civilization

About this thread, I have found Striker's remark about the lack of Arab outrage interesting. I have looked on several news source, and they don't detail the outrage at all, in any country including the US. I suppose the news is too young (especially in the ME where it's morning now) for an outrage to be measured.

I really wonder what the outrage will look like in the Arab world.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
No it's not.

Actually it is on both sides. It's sad that the "Nuke'em until they glow" crowd and the equally stupid "All soldiers are murdering bastards" crowd don't mutually destroy each other.