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[finbar]

I'd create another verb - "to ravagon" - but I couldn't use it in the same sentence as "to Tamerlin" because tautology is a crime against grammar.

[ravagon]

Hmmm ... To finbar ... To fubar ...

Pretty much six of one and half a dozen of the other I'd've thought.

[finbar]

I think I might start a competition. Who can best define the verb "To Havak"?

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by finbar
I think I might start a competition. Who can best define the verb "To Havak"?

For the sake of the Entente Cordiale, South-Western France is retiring from the competition.

[Havak]

I've coined a new verb - "to Tamerlin". It means to utter something completely nonsensical. You have just Tamerlined.

Have a nice slice of humble pie left for when the youngsters turn over the Wallabies then?

Most are fairly benign in temperament, but they can be very protective of their family - children, in particular.

Yes this has been my experience with them – lovely amiable lumps but with a trigger that turns them into large formidable lumps. Dermot clearly read the job description and thought ‘not for me’?

Presumably he will jump before he's pushed?

Generally that is what happens – if he fails to win an absolute victory in any first round leadership vote in the party the pressure to walk becomes almost irresistible. This is how Thatcher was back stabbed – she won the first round but not with enough votes to make it a clean victory – and when those cracks had shown the wolves moved in – I loved it!

About your initial salary cap, it was so high it meant nothing at all.

1.8 Million I believe. I think we have you here Tamerlin – you are on the wrong track and gaining speed.

Ah I think we have it – you are recalling the Saint-Andre years at Glaws and thinking those boys (mainly second string France A players at best) were on mega-bucks? Not at that club Tamerlin – most of them can hardly count to five.

Nothing our clubs have done compare to French sides signing Stephen Jones for £150000 a year – or Tim Stimpson for the same ball park figure. English clubs cannot have even 15 players on that kind of money as it would break the salary cap. Remember these are salaries – not associated promotional income (this only really helps internationals normally – those players with high media profiles – although Finbar’s friend VD does very nicely).

I've just coined another new verb - "To finbar". It means to utter something utterly profound. Tamerlin has just finbared.

You very much have your Tamerlins and Finbars confused! He was barking so far up the wrong tree that the cat was long gone from the real one.

This time it's the Pacific Islands 15, or rather the fact that those Islanders involved in this composite team will still be able to represent the nation of their choosing in the international arena - an aspect very much needed by Island rugby.

Nice spin What he actually complained about is that these Islanders will be able to pick which tri-nations side they 'feel like' belonging to in addition to being an Islander – not an Island nation of origin. For once I find myself in total agreement with him.

But then you know my position – if NZ can only remain competitive in world rugby by throwing it’s doors wide open to Tom, Dick and Harry then it doesn’t deserve a place on the world stage – call them the All Black Barbarians and drop all pretence of the NZ part once
and for all.

(particularly easy for me to say now the two Anglo-Boks are not England regulars)

You must be happy that the NZRFU has flannelled the IRB on this one again?

For the sake of the Entente Cordiale, South-Western France is retiring from the competition.

Excellent line!

To Havak: To be completely and totally right all the time (in one's own head)?

[ravagon]

Originally posted by Havak

Nice spin What he actually complained about is that these Islanders will be able to pick which tri-nations side they 'feel like' belonging to in addition to being an Islander – not an Island nation of origin. For once I find myself in total agreement with him.

Aha but those same Islanders can pick which Nation they wish to play for right now - residency issues aside for a moment - that doesn't change here.
Putting together a combined class-outfit gives them a way to survive 'without' necessarily having to 'resort' to playing for another nation.
Eddie just seems peeved because of the ARB's position that Australian S12 teams can't field any Island players unless those players commit to the Wallaby National team (or is it the other way around?).
In any case, now some of those players have other options.

But then you know my position – if NZ can only remain competitive in world rugby by throwing it’s doors wide open to Tom, Dick and Harry then it doesn’t deserve a place on the world stage – call them the All Black Barbarians and drop all pretence of the NZ part once
and for all.

"Baa baa black sheep, have you " .. , oh sorry, got your point mixed up with something else.

(And yes the sheep 'slip' was intentional. )

I think we may have a different definition of the word 'competitive' here.
I could argue that we just happen to be open-minded whereas some of those from the NH have a rather higher-density of plumbic-related matter constituting their encephalic regions.

I have an odd sense of deja vu regarding this argument ...

[Havak]

Inability to compete with just your own resources makes you open minded? Thats the best line of argument ever used on this one!!!!!

Such altruistic behaviour on your part

[finbar]

Hurricanes 37 -d- Crusaders 20

When the Hurricanes are hot ...

Big upset as far as most are concerned. With a consolation try after the hooter, the scoreboard flattered the Crusaders. Umaga, getting back to fitness, had a blinder. The Crusaders' defence, as I've observed before, is nowhere near the wall it once was. The Hurricanes out-muscled, out-ran and out-thought their oppo. Being a Hurricanes supporter must be almost as frustrating as being a Waratahs supporter. The Crusaders had to win tonight to guarantee a home semi next week. Now, if the Chiefs can beat the Brumbies tomorrow, they can take second spot and the home semi next week. Methinks the Crusaders might be safe.

Now to go back and deal with some of the drivel posted above!

[finbar]

Originally posted by Tamerlin


For the sake of the Entente Cordiale, South-Western France is retiring from the competition.

Lâche!

[finbar]

Originally posted by Havak


Have a nice slice of humble pie left for when the youngsters turn over the Wallabies then?

http://www.isabelperez.com/songs/dream.htm

Yes this has been my experience with them – lovely amiable lumps but with a trigger that turns them into large formidable lumps. Dermot clearly read the job description and thought ‘not for me’?

Yes, and his lips moved while he was reading!

although Finbar’s friend VD does very nicely).

He's forever on TV here flogging hair replacement in his nancy East Midlands voice.

He was barking so far up the wrong tree that the cat was long gone from the real one.

Tortured Metaphor Of The Year!

Nice spin What he actually complained about is that these Islanders will be able to pick which tri-nations side they 'feel like' belonging to in addition to being an Islander – not an Island nation of origin. For once I find myself in total agreement with him.

Presumably this match - or these matches - won't have any official status? They can't. I agree with Eddie too. The whole concept is a silly idea. There should be a combined team in the S12 and more Tests against the island nations. Except, of course, the Kiwis have already deemed them not worthy of a Test match.

To Havak: To be completely and totally right all the time (in one's own head)?

Sorry, not even close.

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by finbar


Lâche!

Yes, Sir!

[Havak]

Well I never thought to see an Everly brother song played for England – you never cease to surprise me Finbar.

He's forever on TV here flogging hair replacement in his nancy East Midlands voice.

That’s a nancy Wirral voice as it happens. And a good thing too given my voice is a typically butch East Midlands one.

Having said that what a strange choice to front an Aussie ad campaign – isn’t he still public enemy number one?

Tortured Metaphor Of The Year!

Off the rack, through the iron maiden and well into the thumb screws.

Except, of course, the Kiwis have already deemed them not worthy of a Test match.

Cynically I would say have deemed them not WORTH playing rather than not worthy – the ABs are a money printing franchise these days like all the big sides.

Sorry, not even close.

The qualifier was too much huh?

Okay, vanilla “To be completely and totally right all the time” it is.

And what is with impuning Tamerlin’s manhood – and him agreeing?

For my part I am happy for you to join in the definitions Tamerlin – I’m unlikely to be upset by any of it. If I can cope with being called a nancy by association of my voice to the east midlands then I can handle anything.

[finbar]

Originally posted by Havak
Well I never thought to see an Everly brother song played for England – you never cease to surprise me Finbar.

While we're back in the 50s, here's a Platters' song for the England team. You only need to adjust the lyric to the plural: http://ntl.matrix.com.br/pfilho/html..._pretender.txt

That’s a nancy Wirral voice as it happens. And a good thing too given my voice is a typically butch East Midlands one.

So when do we see you fronting one of the ads?

Having said that what a strange choice to front an Aussie ad campaign – isn’t he still public enemy number one?

I think it's more a comment on the few sportsmen who have had the transplant - Greg Matthews, Graham Gooch, and VD. They all appear.

Cynically I would say have deemed them not WORTH playing rather than not worthy –

Yep. That's more what I meant.

Okay, vanilla “To be completely and totally right all the time” it is.

Well, no, if you pull out your Thesaurus - that I know you keep in your bottom drawer - you'll discover that's one of the antonyms of "to Tamerlin".

And what is with impuning Tamerlin’s manhood – and him agreeing?

He's living to regret his generosity with Le Petit Ophrys!

For my part I am happy for you to join in the definitions Tamerlin – I’m unlikely to be upset by any of it. If I can cope with being called a nancy by association of my voice to the east midlands then I can handle anything.

Now now, you cleared that up. The nancy isn't a local. So where's he from?

[Havak]

He is from the Wirral - so practically a scouser.

It explains a lot - trust me.

I'm also hoping Tamerlin gets the antonym reference - we are overdue a flood of smilies.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by finbar
Hurricanes 37 -d- Crusaders 20

When the Hurricanes are hot ...

Big upset as far as most are concerned. With a consolation try after the hooter, the scoreboard flattered the Crusaders. Umaga, getting back to fitness, had a blinder. The Crusaders' defence, as I've observed before, is nowhere near the wall it once was. The Hurricanes out-muscled, out-ran and out-thought their oppo. Being a Hurricanes supporter must be almost as frustrating as being a Waratahs supporter. The Crusaders had to win tonight to guarantee a home semi next week. Now, if the Chiefs can beat the Brumbies tomorrow, they can take second spot and the home semi next week. Methinks the Crusaders might be safe.

I'll be watching Chiefs v Brumbies a bit later. I'm not sure if it's live or not so I'll refrain from going to any rugby sites at this point.

If the Sharks beat the Stormers, wouldn't that knock the Chiefs off the 2nd place spot(assming they beat the Brumbies of course)?