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  • #46
    Originally posted by Azazel
    Lots of unarmed people were killed. The Spaniards ordered to open on unarmed demonstrators. If some other country would've done the same thing, You'd have codemnation from each and every country, outcry, fury, massive flag burning in the capitals of Europe, proposals to place an embargo on Spain, etc.. for some reason, nothing happens.
    We had to shoot them. They had AK-47s. I don't know if you think having AK-47s is being unarmed, but the Spanish troops opened up after being fired upon. Azazel, you idiot... how can you fly an Israeli flag when you accuse Spanish troops of defending themselves, when Israeli soldiers do the same thing? It is self-defense. If you had a G-36 in one hand and you saw a guy firing an AK-47 at you.. what would you do? Sit there to take a bullet? No.. I would fire my G-36 at every enemy that has an AK-47. You can't even prove your B.S claims anyways. The Spanish troops are marked with a high level of professionalism. If you don't look at the facts here they are, the Spanish troops in Iraq have served in several different missions before including in the Balkans. Our troops know how to deal with the situation when it arises. Your claims are baseless and arrogant.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #47
      Originally posted by joncha
      Fez's "article" is from the American Forces Press Service. Hardly an unbaised source.
      That source is far more credible then any of the crap you managed to spew.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #48
        Really? how about the colonies of Ceuta and Melilla?
        Wow! very original.
        Go and learn some history.
        They even have an "Apartheid" wall. Haven't heard about that alot, lately, though.
        What are you spaeaking about?
        Ich bin der Zorn Gottes. Wer sonst ist mit mir?

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        • #49

          Wow! very original.
          Go and learn some history.


          Great rebuttal.


          What are you spaeaking about?

          There is a high security fence/wall around Ceuta and Melilla.
          urgh.NSFW

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          • #50
            Great rebuttal.
            Sorry, i am a bit tired. Better do it yourself if you want. Use google it is easy and FREE!
            There is a high security fence/wall around Ceuta and Melilla.
            Yes, it is called border. Here in Spain and Europe we have a little problem with ilegal inmigration.
            Ich bin der Zorn Gottes. Wer sonst ist mit mir?

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            • #51

              Yes, it is called border. Here in Spain and Europe we have a little problem with ilegal inmigration.

              A border with which the other side, from which you occupied the territories, and built colonies on, doesn't agree. The fact that the colonies are there for a long time, doesn't matter. Here we have colonies that are more than a generation old, too.
              urgh.NSFW

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              • #52
                Hey Azazel, that's very convenient. You skipped my response to your unsubstantiated B.S.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Giancarlo


                  We had to shoot them.
                  Are you a spaniard again?
                  Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

                  Do It Ourselves

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Azazel
                    Oh, no, hardly so, my dear boy. If we'd be talking about Israel, you'd see not only UN resolutions, Kofi Annan's talking head on TV, and/or an american press peon, but probably major international pressure, some economic pressure , etc. It's obviously quite clear that I am not saying that Spain is the same as Israel.
                    Quite an imagination you've got there.

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                    • #55


                      There is no comparison with the BS Israel pulls!

                      You're talking out of your apologist arse as usual Az - what's up, now that Siro doesn't post as often you think you have to fill his shoes...?

                      Spain would have to be occupying about 70% of Morocco, with settlements riddling the entire country like a dose of the clap and its 'wall' wouldn't actually be on the actual border but tens of miles into Moroccan territory after massive destruction of property...

                      And that is just scratching the surface!

                      Your country gets off scott free with murder and 'lebensraum' on a daily basis under the aegis of the US - your country is a nasty evil bully of a nation that lashes out under the slightest excuse!

                      Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                      • #56
                        First time I see Azazel randomly trolling, and the scary part is that he made Fez look reasonable!

                        The Spanish, American and Salvadorean troops came under fire and fired back-2 of them were killed and twentysomething injured.
                        If you don't like reality, change it! me
                        "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                        "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Azazel
                          Really? how about the colonies of Ceuta and Melilla? They even have an "Apartheid" wall. Haven't heard about that alot, lately, though.
                          I don't understand this. Are you justifying one wrong with another?
                          (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                          (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                          (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                          • #58
                            Do you guys think that the problems would stop if they guns, and explosives, were stricly cut off from the country?
                            Lysistrata: It comes down to this: Only we women can save Greece.
                            Kalonike: Only we women? Poor Greece!

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                            • #59
                              To my knowledge Spain is not currently colonizing any territory.


                              Since when colonization is the only pretext for violence? (ignoring for second the issue of Ceuta&Melilla)

                              You are brutally occupying an independent country, are allied with the American war criminals, deny the populace their freedom of speech and now fire into crowds of civilians. You WILL get attacked, more and more and more.

                              Islamic terrorism doesnt strike because of reasons that seem logical to you. The terrorists do not seek the life that you seek and they dont have the goals that you have.
                              You are infidels. Infidels who occupy the land that was once part of the Dar al-Islam, and now attack a Muslim nation. That is all that matters.
                              "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by bipolarbear
                                Do you guys think that the problems would stop if they guns, and explosives, were stricly cut off from the country?
                                Okay, so how do you suggest sealing off every mile of the border?

                                Eli:

                                "You are brutally occupying an independent country, are allied with the American war criminals, deny the populace their freedom of speech and now fire into crowds of civilians. You WILL get attacked, more and more and more."

                                American war criminals? You are lying hypocrite. Brutally occupying an independent country? Since when was Iraq ever independent under Saddam Hussein? Were the Iraqi people ever independent in making decisions for themselves? Freedom of speech? What kind of freedom of speech are you talking about you nescient little ****? The freedom to fire an AK-47 at soldiers? What kind of freedom of speech is that? You are nothing but pathetic. I mean go pick up a different line of trolling because you suck at this.

                                (Honestly, are you actually being serious about that crap you typed, eli?)
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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