19 Protestors Killed by Coalition Soldiers in Najaf

[Az]

Your example with Monaco, Andorra, and Luxemburg isn't correct since that small piece of territory is the entire country. In the case of the Vatican, I think it's an anachronism, but the Italians don't seem to mind that.

Now explain me again the paralelism with Israel and Palestine, please. I didnt catch it.

The parallel is: Spain claims to legitimately hold small pieces of land surrounded by a sea of Moroccan territory. Israel claims to legitimately hold small pieces of land surrounded by a sea of Palestinian territory.

Oh and Laurentius, great contribution to the debate here.

[laurentius]

Thanks Azazel, I'm tempted to continue about this subject but too exhausted from using all my contribution power on MrFuns toilet-thread

[Thorgal]

Your example with Monaco, Andorra, and Luxemburg isn't correct since that small piece of territory is the entire country. In the case of the Vatican, I think it's an anachronism, but the Italians don't seem to mind that.

Where says that if you want to claim illegaly some foreign country territories it must be only a piece and not the whole country? It is a new international law or something?

The parallel is: Spain claims to legitimately hold small pieces of land surrounded by a sea of Moroccan territory.

Nope, Spain claims nothing. There is nothing to claim.
It is Morocco who is supposed to "claim".

BTW, Ceuta and Melilla are:

- demographically Spanish (or "hispanics" if you prefer) territories, ever, natural process.

- politically Spanish territories, ever.

- historicaly Spanish territories, ever.

- legally Spanish territories since more than 500 years ago, 450 before Moroccan state exist. (and not with colony status but as part of the spanish territory)

Again, i cant see the parallelism with Israel.

But if you think that to distribute the countries on the world we must look at the simetry and stetic of the maps, well, then C/M would have a little ugly aspect, but Israel would be a much uglier patch in an Arab ocean.

[Eli]

but Israel would be a much uglier patch in an Arab ocean.

Actually it's quite pretty. We're like a shining gem in the middle of a pile of ****.