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Prove that he isn't.Originally posted by Pekka
This is like mingling with the terrorists. You are either fighting terrorism or not, and that dude sure is not.
He'll be dead soon enough because he is getting very old.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Prove that Gaddafi isn't fighting terrorism?
So let the bastard die.. who cares. I don't. I don't wish him painful death, but I won't by crying my eyes out then.
It's really very simple. Let's look at some problems in the past, mingling with the people of shady things. What comes to first my mind is Saddam and Bin Laden, nice fellows they were. Even when they were bastards afterwards, it's no excuse for Gaddafi.
It's just that simple, if he has information, he comes forward. But no, he wants to benefit. So what's wrong with that some people might ask. The problem is, that if there would be no obvious benefits for him, he wouldn't give the information. Now that is not fighting terrorism in my books.
And that's exactly what's happening, and it doesn't make it any better that he might come up with information after he recieved his bonuses. Again it shows his true colors.
Or else the 'you are either with or against us' rhetorics is 100% bull**** and out of the window. It's sick and disgusting, and shouts out loud 'DOUBLE STANDARDS'!!In da butt.
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Prove he hasn't had a change in heart.
That's ****. That is total crap. If Gadafi was not complying and opening up his country, I would have no reservations in taking him out. But don't you dare accuse me of having double standards, you half brained moron.Or else the 'you are either with or against us' rhetorics is 100% bull**** and out of the window. It's sick and disgusting, and shouts out loud 'DOUBLE STANDARDS'!!For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Change in heart? It doesn't matter! He can't be excused of the past, it's too heavy.
And this is not double standards? I never called you having double standards. But since you took it personally and retaliated with insults, take it as you wish.
Hey, I'm not the one wishing Gaddafi welcome and believe he is now a good person. And it doesn't even matter if he was. I believe in Christanity, but this dude has had more the one chance to turn his life.
This is what's now happening, negotiating with the terrorists. THat's what's happening. Then people say how Spain was defeated by terrorists because they could have an effect to their policies.. this is no different, in fact it's worse.In da butt.
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You are seriously messed up in the head. I don't even know why anybody bothers talking to you. You can continue to rant your f**king head off, but it doesn't make it true nor does it make it factual.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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hey, at least I'm not Gaddafi fanboy. Keep supporting ex-terrorists. I don't, I have principals and backbone.In da butt.
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This went well.(\__/)
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You are nothing but a wuss with the backbone of jellow. I am not his fanboy. In fact I hate the socialist policies he mounts his nation on. He drove his country into the ground. But if he opens up during the last years you might aswell give him that chance.Originally posted by Pekka
hey, at least I'm not Gaddafi fanboy. Keep supporting ex-terrorists. I don't, I have principals and backbone.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Giancarlo, You didn't address my points I made at all. You only started insults.
Do you think there is a difference between ex-terrorist and a terrorist? I don't.
I never said we should turn our backs if he has something to say. If he wants to open up his country, sure why not. But he shouldn't get any benefits from telling the information. Withhelding the information he is helping terrorists.
In I'm too tired even to debate about this, because we're talking about Gadaffi, and not some lesser guy. No support for terrorists what so ever, in any form.In da butt.
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Pekka, do you think that the West was wrong to engage in discussions with Gorbachev?(\__/)
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Gorbachev != terrorist.In da butt.
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Oh. The West was not engaged in an expensive, prolonged, bloody conflict with the regime he represented?(\__/)
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So now Gorbachev is a terrorist?In da butt.
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No, but he was a part of a regime that the West regarded as impossible to negotiate with at one point.
Nothing was lost by talking to him, in fact a great deal was gained. Nothing will be lost by talking with people like Gadaffi who seem to have put aside the sword of terrorism long ago. In fact, much might be gained.(\__/)
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