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  • #46
    I don't think that's the case. He probably is just joking about the fact that the situation made him look foolish - not that the situation was his fault.
    how was it not his fault? "sorry, american people, i was just given wrong info by our intelligence. i mean, i'm not responsible for anything, right?"
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    • #47
      sorry, but any time i see the name Hodgekinson, even if it's talking about war dead, i can't divorce its association from lymphoma.
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      • #48
        Some of you need to get a frickin' sense of humor!

        Sure, it is stupid, but it is not offensive or inapropriate.
        'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
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        • #49
          Why not discuss the massive cuts to the section 8 subsidized housing program?
          common people response: cuts on what?

          it's a lot more fun to talk about bush acting like an idiot to appease voters
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          • #50
            Originally posted by MarkG
            how was it not his fault? "sorry, american people, i was just given wrong info by our intelligence. i mean, i'm not responsible for anything, right?"
            His POV would be that the weapons were moved or still remain hidden. I'm not here to argue with you whether that's right or not, I'm just pointing out to you that that's probably the way he would see it.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Caligastia
              It's not making light of those who died, it's making light of the fact that no WMDs have been found yet.

              Anyone who has a problem with this needs to lighten up.

              GePap and I have different politics, but at least he has the sense to admit this is a non-story.

              I think it is an arrogant statement because Bush has never given us concrete proof that WMD existed in Iraq. He took for granted the British brief that stated WMD were in Iraq , which has since been discredited, along with vague CIA intelligence reports on Iraq, and ran with the Iraqi War before fully checking the situation out. Why? Because he had a personal agenda with Iraq that he needed to address. As someone pointed out earlier, Saddam tried to kill his father. And, no wartime president has ever failed to get reelected. The arrogant statement this morning says to the world, "I got away with my private war at your expense, and there is nothing you can do about it".

              Hopefully American voters will show him what we can do about it at the polls in November.
              Last edited by Brundlefly; March 25, 2004, 13:51.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by MarkG
                common people response: cuts on what?
                I will indulge myself:

                section 8 is a HUD run program in which the government helps low-income families find housing-landlords sign up for the program, and have the rooms they whish to include inspected so that HUD or the local agency managing the program knows it is not a hell hole. Then tennats apply to HUD to get vouchers-after a long process, if accepted the family can pick out an apartment or property within the system. The family pays 30% of their income towards rent, while the government pays the difference between the state rent and the contribution the family must make.

                Due to massive cuts in the program, no one has been able to get any vouchers, at leats in NYC, for years. Now, massive cuts are planned that would mean tens of thousands of poor families wouldno longer be able to afford their housing. Here in NY, with the average rent of a sutdio being about 600 dollars a month, that means huge amounst of familes will either find illegal housing, or end up in the streets.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by bfg9000



                  I think it is an arrogant statement because Bush has never given us concrete proof that WMD existed in Iraq. He took for granted the British brief that stated WMD were in Iraq , which has since been discredited, along with vague CIA intelligence reports on Iraq, and ran with it the Iraqi War before fully checking the situation out. Why? Because he had a personal agenda with Iraq that he needed to address. As someone pointed out earlier, Saddam tried to kill his father. And, no wartime president has ever failed to get reelected. This arrogant statement this morning says to the world, "I got away with it my private war at your expense, and there is nothing you can do about it".
                  That's how you take it, but that's not how he meant it.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by bfg9000
                    I think it is an arrogant statement because Bush has never given us concrete proof that WMD existed in Iraq.
                    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2590265.stm
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                    • #55
                      Lighten up guys... he made that joke, I'm sure, for the sole purpose so that his biggest haters would see him in a more human light.

                      Wrong again...

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                      • #56
                        Why not discuss the massive cuts to the section 8 subsidized housing program?
                        Because thats not interesting enough for anyone outside the US to get their panties in a knot over.

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                        • #57
                          People get thier panties in a bunch over other innane crap that does not affect thier countries either-

                          think of it as an arguement over the responsibility of government to do something to attempt to provide the basic needs to its citzens, like housing, or food.
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                          "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by GePap
                            People get thier panties in a bunch over other innane crap that does not affect thier countries either-

                            think of it as an arguement over the responsibility of government to do something to attempt to provide the basic needs to its citzens, like housing, or food.
                            No, I agree. I'm interested in that stuff, but then again I'm an American who has lived in public housing...

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by The diplomat
                              Some of you need to get a frickin' sense of humor!
                              I have a sense of humor, just not one like Bush's that goes "oopsy oopsy, looks like those WMDs weren't there after, and darnit we turned thousands of people into meat paste over nothing after all."

                              There's a LOT of things Bush could poke fun of himself for; A false rationale that led to mass carnage and destruction is not one of them
                              "Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.

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                              • #60
                                Cujo? Cujo?

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