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Pledge of Allegiance Case Takes Center Stage at SCOTUS
And Ben--I've read quite a few of that reporters articles, and I find myself disagreeing with her more often than not. Definitely ain't a liberal.
As have I.
Just taking a cheap shot at your endorsement of a moderate.
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Wow, amazing defence. After all, politics belong in primary school.
historical,
"We're too lazy to stop."
ceremonial
Kids should spend their time on useful ceremonies, like memorizing that twelve times twelve is one-forty-four.
Seriously, junking the pledge makes life easier for everyone involved (except the teachers who have to teach for an extra minute a day). There is no good reason to keep it.
No religion in the government or any government material (the pledge and CURRENCY). I don't care what you think or if your opinion is on this is differing then mine. It is either no religion in this matter or a gross violation of the constitution for us who do not believe in god.
"“Article 11. As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion"
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
If it's a meaningless phrase, then why have it in the first place? It's just wasting time that could better be used teaching kids about how great the founding fathers are/were (can't get into religious matters like the afterlife's existance/non-existance), and how to tie their shoes.
skywalker: I agree... that's why I said it's not that big a deal to me. Seriously, there's terrorists out there trying to get us, there's a stagnant economy, there's millions of job losses, many millions more without health care... and we're arguing about gay marriage and the pledge.
Giancarlo: Good to see you have some sense on this matter...
It was in since 1953 or 1954 I think... either it was the Truman or Eisenhower adminstration that put the phrase in (not to mention in the currency aswell).
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
What religion does the phrase, one nation under God endorse?
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I think most reasonable atheists will acknowledge that atheism does indeed fit the definition of "religion," if only for sanity's sake.
It depends. If you endorse as a matter of conviction the belief that there is no god and the universe is meaningless, then it is a belief about a theological matter.
But what if you simply don't care if there is a god or if the universe is meaningful? In that case it doesn't seem that you are expressing a religious belief, rather just your indifference.
I suspect that theists would prefer the first to be enshrined in law because it entails that theological beliefs matter more than does the second case.
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