Pledge of Allegiance Case Takes Center Stage at SCOTUS

[Sava]

Originally posted by Kucinich

I have a lot of free time.

Isn't the fact that you post on Apolyton evidence enough of that?

Yes... I enjoy it quite a bit. But proportionally, I don't spend that much of my time here. I hate people, but I enjoy the discussion which is why I love chatting online. If you ****ers piss me off... I just turn off my computer.

[Sava]

If fact... I think the greatest proponent of the seperation of church and state was Jesus Christ:

Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto the Lord that which is the Lord's.

funny how he specifically seperates the two... but Christians love to ignore parts of their own scripture that don't agree with their sick political agenda.

[Sava]

Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus.

--Thomas Jefferson...

boy Jefferson was great

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Sava
--Thomas Jefferson...

boy Jefferson was great

It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read a book of quotations - Winston Churchill

[Kuciwalker]

[LiberalAtheist]

It should be obvious at this point, especially seeing as how the religiuous are reacting so fervently on the issue, that the "Under God" phrase in the pledge has obvious religious connotations. This was made clear by McCarthy when his commity put the very phrase in and Senate had a big prayer to show disaproval.

[Kuciwalker]

[Sava]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read a book of quotations - Winston Churchill

You're a moron - me

But I'm sure the intellectual giants in Mississippi became great minds by not reading.

[Sava]

DL!

[Stuie]

Is that as opposed to "ConservativeAtheist"?

Whatever...

[chequita guevara]

I pledge allegence to the flag
of the united states of america
and to the republic
for which it stands
one nation
under Vishnu
with liberty
and justice
for all

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Well, you know what. Everytime this nation or any nation or any organization or any person, etc., spits in God's face like this they DO NOT experience God's blessings, but rather they experience His wrath.

So, if the Supreme Court ends up offending God by removing the words 'Under God' from the Pledge, all I have to say to America is, "Look out from above!"

[David Floyd]

I think that the intent of the phrase "under God" is enough to throw the phrase out - as I understand it, Eisenhower wanted students to acknowledge God, right? Of course, that really isn't part of his job, nor is he even allowed to encourage it in an official capacity as President of the United States, which of course he did by signing it into law.

[monkspider]

I have no problem with the phrase, but if ya'll wanna throw it out, it's no biggie.

[gamenaught]

Well, you know what. Everytime this nation or any nation or any organization or any person, etc., spits in God's face like this they DO NOT experience God's blessings, but rather they experience His wrath.

Can you back that claim with demographics or statistics?

Religionists use that reasoning to justify cramming their religion down the throats of everyone else.

But let’s see if that claim is true:

The most religious countries of the world (the Islamic countries) have a very low standard of living. The most religious states in the US (the Bible Belt) have lower standards of living, more crime, and far more divorces than the more secular parts of the country. In terms of individuals, the atheists and agnostics that I know are generally just as prosperous and probably more prosperous that the general God-believing population.

It looks to me that the people that piss in God’s face are doing far better than the believers. How do you explain that?