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  • Coalition of the Willing falling apart?

    First Spain, then Poland, now South Korea?

    Some in Bush's 'coalition of the willing' are suddenly losing their will

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    Robert Burns

    March 19, 2004 | WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush's prized ``coalition of the willing'' -- the three dozen countries that are contributing military forces in Iraq -- appears suddenly to be losing some of its will.

    First Spain said it was getting out, then Poland said it might leave early, and on Friday the South Korean Ministry of Defense announced that it will not send its troops to the area of Iraq that U.S. commanders had requested, although it said it would position them elsewhere in Iraq.

    The coalition may not be crumbling, but neither is it gaining the political traction that the Pentagon had hoped for as it tackles the difficult task of finding fresh forces for the Iraq mission in 2005 and beyond.

    A key element of the Bush administration's strategy for Iraq is to put an international face on the military force that is not only helping rebuild the country but also to trying to snuff out a resilient insurgency.

    That strategy is meant to counter the charge by critics that the administration took a unilateral action in attacking Iraq, and that it has failed to garner sufficient allied support in the war's aftermath.

    It's possible, of course, that security conditions in Iraq will improve so markedly over the remainder of this year that a military force much smaller than the current one of about 140,000 will be required. In that case the United States may not need additional allied troop contributions.

    But if the insurgency persists or gains ground, then any slack in coalition contributions _ as suggested by Spain, Poland and possibly South Korea _ may have to be made up by deploying even more American forces.

    Marine Corps Gen. Peter Pace, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in an Associated Press interview Thursday that there are now about 115,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, plus about 24,000 coalition troops. Nearly half of the coalition contribution is from staunch ally Britain.

    Pace said it was too early to conclude that Spain will follow through on its pledge to withdraw.

    "It's not clear that Spain will withdraw,'' he said. The new government has indicated ``there are conditions under which they can stay, and that would be up to their sovereign government to make their

    Spain's Prime Minister-elect Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, who gained office in an election held just three days after terrorist train bombings that killed 201 people in the Spanish capital, said Wednesday that the U.S.-led occupation in Iraq ``is turning into a fiasco.'' He said he will pull 1,300 Spanish troops out of Iraq unless the United Nations takes control of military mission.

    Condoleezza Rice, Bush's national security adviser, said in a CNN interview Thursday it was up to the Spanish government to decide whether to end its role as a key American military ally in Iraq.

    "Whatever they decide about their forces in Iraq, that's up to the Spanish government,'' she said.

    Poland's President Aleksander Kwasniewski said Thursday that his country might pull its 2,400 troops out of Iraq early next year, about six months ahead of schedule. Polls show about half of Poles are opposed to involvement in Iraq. Kwasniewski said he was misled by Bush administration assertions before the war that Saddam Hussein had threatening stockpiles of germ and gas weapons. No such weapons have been found.

    Kwasniewski's comments were the first by a Polish leader to raise doubts about the intelligence behind Washington's decision to go to war and the latest signs of a weakening of support for the war among coalition members. He tempered his remarks by stressing that Poland has not intention of abandoning its role in Iraq, and said Iraq was a better place without Saddam.

    White House spokesman Scott McClellan on Thursday would not comment directly on Kwasnieski's remarks.

    "Poland is a strong ally in the war on terrorism and we appreciate their strong support,'' McClellan said. "They reaffirmed they stand with us in the war on terror.''

    South Korea's announcement, which had not been foreseen in Washington, may be more problematic.

    U.S. commanders had counted on South Korea to send about 3,600 troops to the Kirkuk area of northern Iraq, to be part of a multinational force led by the U.S. Army's 1st Infantry Division. Without the Koreans there, the Pentagon might have to find another U.S. ground unit to fill the gap.

    A Defense Department official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said, "We value South Korea's contribution in fighting terrorism as we value the contributions of the more than 90 countries that have joined the coalition in fighting terrorism. It is up to each country to decide what type, duration and scope of support it may provide the coalition.''


    What a great leader we have.
    Last edited by chequita guevara; March 19, 2004, 10:48.
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  • #2
    Interesting, people are slowly waking up. It will not be an easy road ahead, but we are getting there.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by monkspider
      Interesting, people are slowly waking up. It will not be an easy road ahead, but we are getting there.
      We are getting there alright, slowly but surely, appeasement to the terrorists. Congratulations, you are winning.
      Lets always remember the passangers on United Flight 93, true heroes in every sense of the word!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Defiant


        We are getting there alright, slowly but surely, appeasement to the terrorists. Congratulations, you are winning.
        Thanks

        Terrorists
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        • #5


          SDNWOTI
          Monkey!!!

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          • #6
            Defiant, No, terrorists wins if we start arguing. Why? Well look at it like this, there is no West anymore like it used to be. In hostilities, there is no referee, because the refs are in the ring while the terrorists laugh their butts off. And then when it's all over, we can look at ourselves and see we lost it all, and it was our fault and we well never get something as big EVER.

            That's the real problem, not this. This is nothing, this is small and petty. Let's just suck it up and get over it everyone.
            In da butt.
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            • #7
              Thanks to the weak wills of the terrorist-appeasers.
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              • #8
                Park Avenue, and that kind of talk only feeds Terrorists.
                In da butt.
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                • #9
                  Why do you think the Poles are willing to pull out?

                  I heard, that their president said "We were misled BY SADDAM HUSSEIN about WMD," not by Bush.

                  You've been decieved by the translators.
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                  • #10
                    "Park Avenue, and that kind of talk only feeds Terrorists."

                    No, it's those kinds of will that feed the terrorists.

                    People like me are just the messengers.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                      Why do you think the Poles are willing to pull out?

                      I heard, that their president said "We were misled BY SADDAM HUSSEIN about WMD," not by Bush.

                      You've been decieved by the translators.
                      They mistranslated "Saddam Hussein" to "George Bush"?


                      I can understand that.
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                      • #12
                        You've been decieved by the translators
                        Not the translators, the liberal media
                        Monkey!!!

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                        • #13
                          "But naturally I also feel uncomfortable due to the fact that we were misled with the information on weapons of mass destruction," he said, according to a transcript released by the presidential press office. "

                          Now, where does this statement explicitly refer to Bush?

                          Secondly, the erstwhile reporters left out what he said about Hussein.
                          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                          • #14
                            Not the translators, the liberal media
                            Eh, correct, but the 'reporters' left out the context of his statement.

                            LACKING translators, it is difficult for us to correct their error.
                            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                            • #15
                              Park Avenue, tell me this much, which one is worse and what is bigger win for Terrorists:

                              a) People pulling back out of Iraq, 100 Iraqis die because of this and 3000 people die in Europe as a result of attacks anyway, and new strikes in Philippines, 3000 western tourists die.

                              b) The US and Europe stop being allies.
                              In da butt.
                              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                              THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                              "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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