Coalition of the Willing falling apart?

[Solly]

a) and b) are at their origin the same thing.

[Pekka]

That is not my question. Answer the question.

[Solly]

Well I can't tell you how terrorists think.

[Pekka]

I asked you which one is worse in your opinion of these two things. It's not a trick question, I'll explain how I see this then.

[Solly]

Well, they are not easy questions to answer.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
Thanks to the weak wills of the terrorist-appeasers.

Damn it guys -- who squealed that all of us liberals are active sympathizers of Saddam Insane and ******* Bin Laden?

[chequita guevara]

People like Stewie are the reason there are terrorist in the first place.

[Solly]

"People like Stewie are the reason there are terrorist in the first place."

Yes, people like me who won't cave in to demands on the threat of violence.

When weak people do, like Spaniards, it fosters more terrorism as it becomes obvious that those tactics work.

[Pekka]

Park Avenue, On the contrary, I think it's very easy. I mean it's not easy when you start thinkign about it, but if you see it like I do, the choice is easy.

option a is bad no doubt. Terrorist are celebrating absolutely, victims dead and their relatives are in pain.

option b is far worse. We give up the power of West by deviding ourselves and the power that comes from us being friend is now gone. There are only separate powers. It opens up a new space for example China to step up. Suddenly, there is a competition of new superpowers. We gotta make a move here in Europe..... if we're not friends anymore, it could just as easily be China. THat's not something to joke about, that scenario is horror.

Anyway the situation is so open, that no one can predict anything anymore, controlling is more impossible than ever.

Who knows what happens to different economies.

All the bad things of this century will come out of this lost friendship. And for what? If we are not friends anymore, let's make it count for something. Let's nuke each other first. THat's a reason to separate. Iraq? War on terrorism? Not even close. This is where the terrorists get their first orgasm, being virgins and all.

Who could have known, that with few bombings and letters and phone calls and bad english, you get a situation where west is devided, power diminished, friends against each other. That's what the weak must do, to get bullies go at it each other.

No matter if the bullies are already in disagreement of something, they can still be friends and should be friends. We will see the chaotic outcome after it would happen, and we would regret it forever and we couldn't build it back up like it was. We just gave the ultimate power away.

Think about what would happen in US if we weren't friends anymore. Do you think US stands in one line happy about it? What about the same sitaution in Europe? No way! That would be so huge upset to both, it's like poking ant nest.

Nothing good would happen, nothing. I don't see nothing good coming out of it not a single thing and I see good things coming out of every war and me paying traffic fine for speeding.

It's just not worth it. Enemies have manipulated us away from the real enemy, which is them, not us. Never forget it.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
Yes, people like me who won't cave in to demands on the threat of violence.

Actually, he meant bigots and fanatics who are willing to use violence and cause suffering.

[Wezil]

The US has created terrorists where they didn't exist before. That is one hell of a war on terror policy.

else,

The terrorists are coming from outside Iraq to fight Americans. In this case I'm sure the Iraqis are grateful the US is taking their war on terror to the Iraqi streets.

Let's be honest - Iraq had sweet **** all to do with terrorism till the invasion.

[Ben Kenobi]

Let's be honest - Iraq had sweet **** all to do with terrorism till the invasion.

Right.

Just like they never had a weapons program, eh?

[Wezil]

"weapons program"

what happened to the actual "weapons" we were told about?

Reagrdless - not connected to "war on terror". This is a red herring.

[Ben Kenobi]

what happened to the actual "weapons" we were told about?

They have yet to be found.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


They have yet to be found.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Sorry, but by this logic, we can say that Reagan had Kennedy shot..after all, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Absence of weapons, or testimonials of the existence of wepaons, or documents of the existence of weapons 12 months after thew war begun is pretty damned good evidence of absence.