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  • #76
    My previous point exactly about communism.
    "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

    “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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    • #77
      I see that Libertarians are against democracy. TheBen is right, they should be called Libertyrants.
      yea, ideally, there wouldnt be any voting required by citizens. all what youd need is a government which enforces your natural rights, and thats it. unfortunately, government needs some kind of funding, and a way to make sure that corrupt people dont get into power forever. and then ofcourse, how would you choose who gets the power.
      "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia


        yea, ideally, there wouldnt be any voting required by citizens. all what youd need is a government which enforces your natural rights, and thats it. unfortunately, government needs some kind of funding, and a way to make sure that corrupt people dont get into power forever. and then ofcourse, how would you choose who gets the power.
        +

        Ummm.. There are more problems with it than that. One of the worst is what makes the govt opperate in the people's interest, or do you even care about that?
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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        • #79
          Communists don't give a crap about anything, but stealing property. It's shameful.
          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
            Communists don't give a crap about anything, but stealing property. It's shameful.
            Nice try, but that's just a BFA. There's no evidence of that on this thread.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
              what youd need is a government which enforces your natural rights, and thats it.
              Problem is, there's no such thing as natural rights.
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • #82
                Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                Problem is, there's no such thing as natural rights.
                If you go that route, there is no such thing as equality and no need to distribute wealth equally.
                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Kidicious


                  Nice try, but that's just a BFA. There's no evidence of that on this thread.
                  Your right this isn't a commie thread, but my troll worked.
                  "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                  “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


                    Your right this isn't a commie thread, but my troll worked.
                    You should ask yourself why you have to troll like that to get the focus off of your evil ideology.
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                    • #85
                      You obviously mistake my posts as serious. I haven't written anything serious in the last few days.

                      I've been hopelessly frivolous the last few days.

                      Carry on.
                      "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                      “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                        If you go that route, there is no such thing as equality and no need to distribute wealth equally.
                        Equality, like the concept of right, is a human creation. It only exists because we created it. Thus, it is not natural.
                        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                        • #87
                          So by default your saying both systems are flawed by initial premise?
                          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                          • #88
                            Of course they are.

                            I would also note that you are juxtiposing equality and right. Communism does not do away with right, merely changes and extends it.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #89
                              Some would say warp and mutate, but you can go with change and extend if that helps you sleep at night.
                              "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                              “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by chegitz guevara I doubt that.
                                Assuming that they'd not care about poor people they didn't know, they'd still want the vote for their children going through university, their husband/wife, their slightly less wealthy friends, their retired parents etc. This proposal even falls apart on the grounds of simple nepotism.

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