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**jasev** · March 14, 2004, 06:39

May-be ETA hire outside help. In some Mafic hit in America the local mob hire hitman from than other city control by the Mafic to kill than witness or another mob member to avoid certain problem, like the local police know what very local mafic hitman look like.

According with the documents that we're beginning to know, ETA didn't need to 'hire' moslem extremist groups. They'd have done it for free. Now, nobody denies that Al-Queda (¿Al-Qaeda? ¿Al-Quida?

) is behind the bombs; the possibility of a co-operation with ETA is absurd because of two reasons:

1) ETA would have nothing to win with that. They learned it when they killed more than 20 people in Barcelona 17 years ago.
2) Al-Queda would have a lot to lose making an agreement with ETA because the spanish government has spies inside the band and it would have been an unnecessary risk: no terrorist group in the world can tell ETA his plans because there is a chance that the spanish intelligence service may receive them.

**Bereta_Eder** · March 14, 2004, 07:21

It will be interesting to see what people will vote.

**OliverFA** · March 14, 2004, 09:06

Originally posted by Ted Striker
You are looking at it the wrong way mrmitchell

Imagine how many MORE acts would have occurred by now if USA hadn't have gone after these morons.

I think you expect a perfect world where these attacks no longer ever occur.

**OliverFA** · March 14, 2004, 09:13

Originally posted by WRW

LIER!!!

This convocation was for the Friday, no Saturday... !!!

Saturday's convocation was espontaneous by sending anonimus SMS.

If your eyes can´t see that´s not my fault.

This is that SMS text (in Spanish):

"¿Aznar de rositas? ¿le llaman jornadas de reflexión y Urdaci trabaja? Hoy 13-M a las 18 horas sede PP C/Génova 13. Sin partidos. Silencio. Por la verdad. ¡Pásalo!".

Oh yes... Urdaci cannot work, but the SER can...

**WRW** · March 14, 2004, 09:33

Originally posted by OliverFA

If your eyes can´t see that´s not my fault.

Oh yes... Urdaci cannot work, but the SER can...

Are you Urdaci?

My dear "Lier" ignorant, Could you translate the text of this message, please? So everyone can see that maybe you're a Popular Party menber.

And how much visits does this web page have?

10, 15, maybe 20...?

Thanks.

**WRW** · March 14, 2004, 09:46

If the SER radio station, the La Vanguardia newspaper, and others, didn't work yesterday and we have to know the f***** true throught actual Spain's Goverment, We, Spain, Europe and all the World was thinking still that the Al Qaeda terrorist band didn't make this terrible massacre

**jasev** · March 14, 2004, 09:53

So. What do you think about the ilegitimate demonstrations? They say that they were "espontaneous" demonstrations. But look at this page preparing that "espontaneous" demonstration...

Oliver, the demonstration was spontaneous because there was no official announce from any organisation. Somebody thought it would be a good idea and everybody used SMS, e-mail, newsgroups and forums to ask the people to go. If you care to search, I'm sure you'll find similar messages in a lot of websites. For example, somebody posted one in the SCS Forum... are you going to type that we prepare illegal demonstratinos?

**Dr Strangelove** · March 14, 2004, 10:19

Originally posted by CharlesBHoff

Criminal investion arenot easy as there are so many angle to consider. On Long Island on halloween some cazy person was putting 100 % pure heron in oakmeal cookies than 20 small children die from eating then. The Mafric gave the local police than tip on who was doing it. It turn out to be than cazy millionair, first no heron addit would have done this as they would have use the drug on thenself, drug dealer would have cut the drug by missing it with bakeing soda an sell it to heron addit.

OK, I need to seem some proof of this. Can you link us to a newspaper article about this crime? Could this be some sort of urban legend?

**Dr Strangelove** · March 14, 2004, 10:25

I'm not sure why people are so angry about the government initially suspecting ETA. After all there have been arrests of ETA agents involved in bombing plots recently. Wasn't one such incident aborted by the Spanish police supposedly a plot to bomb a train or a station?

I wonder if it would be actually possible for al-Qaeda to have manipulated ETA into attempting to plant bombs and then to have turned them in with precisely the hopes of misleading the Spanish government into making humiliating misaccusations?

**BeBMan** · March 14, 2004, 10:27

I think the prob is more that the government still insisted it was the ETA when that wasn't clear at all anymore.

**Bereta_Eder** · March 14, 2004, 10:29

Because Dr. Strangelove, if it was ETA then the gov. wouldn't be held responsible for supporting US on invading Iraq.

**Bereta_Eder** · March 14, 2004, 10:30

That's why it tired as hard as it could to blame eta. and that's why it wasnt too pleased when people staged rallies accusing it of supporting the US (and declared them illegal under the notion that they were political and so close to elections)

**OliverFA** · March 14, 2004, 10:32

Of course jasev. If you change your definition of espontaneous they are espontaneous. But the only truth is that all those people and web sites (as yourself recognize) broke the law by suporting (if not organizing) an ilegal demonstration. And that the PSOE didn´t ask the demonstrators to stop, implicitly backing them...

**OliverFA** · March 14, 2004, 10:35

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
I'm not sure why people are so angry about the government initially suspecting ETA. After all there have been arrests of ETA agents involved in bombing plots recently. Wasn't one such incident aborted by the Spanish police supposedly a plot to bomb a train or a station?

I wonder if it would be actually possible for al-Qaeda to have manipulated ETA into attempting to plant bombs and then to have turned them in with precisely the hopes of misleading the Spanish government into making humiliating misaccusations?

First. we will see this afternoon if people is really angry at the government or not.

Second, "people" are angry because they are looking for any error of the government to blame them, no matter if they have to use the 200 victims for that. The truth is that all of them thougt the same (which can be told by their words "oh no! now PP will have absolute majority!) but now they are saying they wouldn´t.

**jasev** · March 14, 2004, 10:59

Of course jasev. If you change your definition of espontaneous they are espontaneous.

I didn't change anything.

But the only truth is that all those people and web sites (as yourself recognize) broke the law by suporting (if not organizing) an ilegal demonstration.

Well, dennounce us please.

And that the PSOE didn´t ask the demonstrators to stop, implicitly backing them...

Typical. When you don't know whom to blame, let's blame PSOE. What a pity Felipe González has retired, you could have blamed him

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