Heavy terr act in Madrid II

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
so, wait a second, lemme get this straight. after 15 pages of saying its al qaeda we find out that its not? shocking...

Apparently - but let's not jump to conclusions...

Originally posted by Dinodork And?

Though also apparently some people need things spelled out to them...

[Ted Striker]

I thought this was going to say there was another attack today.

[MOBIUS]

Not today...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Trolling Idiot
Though also apparently some people need things spelled out to them...

You act as if France and Germany have somesort of holy writ upon them preventing attacks upon them because the didn't join in the Iraq campaign.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Apparently - but let's not jump to conclusions..

I thought this was going to say there was another attack today.

there was. fez suckerd BAMmed me from behind, and then continued while I was down.

[Ted Striker]

Nice quotes

[OliverFA]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
You act as if France and Germany have somesort of holy writ upon them preventing attacks upon them because the didn't join in the Iraq campaign.

Wasn´t France menaced just by forbidding the chador at school?

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Spiffor
OTOH, I find it really outrageous that the poltiical elites only thought about raking the catastrophe for their profit. I don't know if politicians have a good reputation in Spain, but their behaviour with this massacre will definitely not help

Indeed. Perhaps they did that to justify the hard policy towards ETA of the last few year?

[WRW]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
so then infact, the government politcized the event, planted the seed in the minds of the people that it was ETA, so they could get more votes come sunday.

That's true. I'm very sad.

[WRW]

Originally posted by OliverFA


On Thursday morning everyone thought that it was ETA. Even the head of the autonomous government said that they would not achieve anything by that way.

No, that's no true.

The Spain government (Popular Party) was the first who said that ETA had been the author.

I was watching the news in my house since the first moment.

[WRW]

Originally posted by OliverFA
So. What do you think about the ilegitimate demonstrations? They say that they were "espontaneous" demonstrations. But look at this page preparing that "espontaneous" demonstration...

http://www.culturacontralaguerra.org/

LIER!!!

This convocation was for the Friday, no Saturday... !!!



Saturday's convocation was espontaneous by sending anonimus SMS.


This is that SMS text (in Spanish):

"¿Aznar de rositas? ¿le llaman jornadas de reflexión y Urdaci trabaja? Hoy 13-M a las 18 horas sede PP C/Génova 13. Sin partidos. Silencio. Por la verdad. ¡Pásalo!".

[mrmitchell]

Lazy uninformed dumbass American here, so please excuse me if I don't know enough about this, or are talking out of my ass...

Didn't the ETA deny involvement? Is there anything that actually proves they were or weren't involved?

It's an awful tragedy, and it just goes to show how ineffective Bush's policies have been. 2 years into the war on freedom, and 200 citizens can die in a single terror attack in an industrialized nation. And it was from the terror organization that we supposedly broke.

Then the Spanish government leaders go on to say that ETA did it at first. Spain guys, do they derive political advantage from saying that? Was there any proof to back that up then?

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Another guy mentioned in another thread that cell phones were ringing on the dead bodies, because their families were calling them to see if they were okay. Is this true? That's just creepy.

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Enough politicizing though. to Spain, and I will keep Madrid in my thoughts.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by mrmitchell
Was there any proof to back that up then?

On February 29, police intercepted a Madrid-bound van packed with more than 1,100 pounds of explosives, and blamed the Basque separatist group ETA.

On Christmas eve, police thwarted an attempted bombing at Chamartin, another Madrid rail station, and arrested two suspected ETA members.

Police have been on high alert for Basque separatist violence ahead of general elections on Sunday, in which regional tensions and how to fight ETA have been key themes

[Ted Striker]

You are looking at it the wrong way mrmitchell

Imagine how many MORE acts would have occurred by now if USA hadn't have gone after these morons.

I think you expect a perfect world where these attacks no longer ever occur.

[WRW]

Originally posted by mrmitchell
Lazy uninformed dumbass American here, so please excuse me if I don't know enough about this, or are talking out of my ass...

Didn't the ETA deny involvement?

Yes, they did it the Friday in a comunication to this newspaper--->www.gara.net. You can see it in English too. --->http://www.gara.net/azkenak/orriak/art74502.php


But the goverment said That it didn't had relevance.

Is there anything that actually proves they were or weren't involved?

No, nothing involves them for certain: another kind of Explosives, a very important logistic Operation and cordination...

It's an awful tragedy, and it just goes to show how ineffective Bush's policies have been. 2 years into the war on freedom, and 200 citizens can die in a single terror attack in an industrialized nation. And it was from the terror organization that we supposedly broke.

Then the Spanish government leaders go on to say that ETA did it at first. Spain guys, do they derive political advantage from saying that? Was there any proof to back that up then?

Yes, because an AlQaeda terrorism's act would substract a lot of votes to Popular Party. The Popular Party was the only one party who wants to send troops to Irak.

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Another guy mentioned in another thread that cell phones were ringing on the dead bodies, because their families were calling them to see if they were okay. Is this true? That's just creepy.

Thats true. Horrible.

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Enough politicizing though. to Spain, and I will keep Madrid in my thoughts.

Thanks.