I am a liar and a demagogue

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Hmm, when I first read this (Red this? ), I didn't think it was another Commie.

Well, things get heated more often when we're on the same side, because we don't force ourselves to have a polite debate.

Besides, we commies have a long history of sectarianism, and hurling insults to the neighbour's group simply because the leader is not the same, because they don't agree with one word we hold for extremely important, or crap like that. The French far left has done a terrific job recently into rooting out this sectarianism, and they are know able to work together while acknowledging they aren't exactly the same

Besides, the Communist Party of Apolyton is very trailblazing in this regard, because we are all united under the same banner despite having revolutionaries, council commies, pure socialists, stalinists etc. If we were in real life, we'd be yelling at each other and hurling insults constantly

[Az]

Nah. I let my politics and friendships at different levels. Besides, our goals are similar, and that's what really matters.

[Imran Siddiqui]

we commies have a long history of sectarianism

Which is why commies will never win. Capitalism triumphs again!

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Besides, the Communist Party of Apolyton is very trailblazing in this regard, because we are all united under the same banner despite having revolutionaries, council commies, pure socialists, stalinists etc.

If we could spread this to the real world, we'd earn ourselves a place in history. I think I could live with that.

[Arrian]

Radicals hate to compromise. Hence the bitter infighting over seemingly small differences.

Che, could you really live with it? Given the venom I've seen from you for moderates (aka, liberal compromisers), I'm not sure you really could.

-Arrian

[Az]

because moderates aren't socialists. Not even social democrats.

[Az]

I meant that moderates aren't social democrats, and not that social democrats aren't socialists ( But that's true as well )

[Spiffor]

"Moderates", at least in the American meaning I fathomed here, seem to favour capitalism while including some humane concerns in, and progressive social policies (such as gay marriage and abortion).

They are less different from us than outright conservatives, but they are definietely not on our side.

[Boris Godunov]

Wait, he left and formed his own group, and you're the turncoat? Interesting logic.

Screw him. Spit in his face when next you meet!

[Ben Kenobi]

Spiffor:

The guy probably wasn't a Conservative. Conservatives care little about what the Communists do.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Arrian
Che, could you really live with it?

What Az said.

[Az]

The real problem with the left is not sectarianism. it's that post modernist crap.

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by alva
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What the French word for a 'turncoat' btw?

I would say *transfuge*.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Wait, he left and formed his own group, and you're the turncoat? Interesting logic.

So you think so too?

The logic behind it is that his group holds the true principles of the Party, while the current party is led by usurpers. Ergo, all those who follow the party are turncoats, as they are following the usurpers

[DAVOUT]

Poor Spiffor, you discover that commies are sectarian and stubborn ... All the most famous stalinist of the fifties are now recognizing that they know the truth but stick to the party line.

I like young people with generous ideas, but what need you have to join the PCF?