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Anyway, I've seen film of slaughter, so while I may not have been inside one myself, I've seen it first hand.
Highlights of Ren and Stimpy don't count.
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Originally posted by OzzyKP
I wonder how often pro-choice vegitarians commit this obvious hypocrisy?
I'm pro-choice and a vegetarian, and I don't consider myself partaking in any hypocrisy. But that's because, like many vegetarians, I am so for health reasons, not animal rights ones. Broad strokes paint bad pictures.
Yep like Hepatitus(sp?) from bad peppers at Chiles (or was it Chi Chi's?).
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Originally posted by skywalker
As much as buying a lotto ticket and thinking it's a good investment
Nice try, but there are medically proven health advantages to vegetarian diets.
First and foremost, it's a great weight management regimen for people with obesity problems. Vegetarians have a demonstrably lower BMI index, and many overweight people who adopt such diets shed large amounts of fat. Vegetarians are less likely to have heart disease, gallstones, or other weight-related health problems like adult-onset diabetes and high blood pressure. Vegetarians are also less likely to have a stroke and certain types of cancer, such as colon cancer. Some studies indicate vegetarians also enjoy a longer life expectancy than the average.
Well, I don't think those are primary concerns of the health-reasoned vegetarians. Still, one has to note that vegetarians will naturally not worry about things like e coli, trychinosis, samonella and other types of food poisoning associated with meats. Or mad cow disease!
Still, having read a good deal about the hormones they pump into cattle and chickens for mass consumption, I can't help but be happy I am not ingesting that stuff. Maybe it doesn't hurt, but maybe it does, and I certainly don't need it in my diet.
Animals can't have rights. They are incapable of articulating a demand for a relationship and defending it. Only humans can have rights.
Your either a speciesist or just privileging human language needlessly.
My cat is quite capable of defending her rights (even if not effectively). She expresses displeasure when she does not want to be picked up, brings her ball when she wants to play, wimpers when she wants food. Most animals are quite adept at expressing their desires and rights if you know how to read their behavior.
I fail to see the difference between a cat that fends off his/her attacker to assert his/her right to be let be and a person who uses language for the same functional affect.
Moreover, when you move into the ape family you find that chimpanzees are quite capable of developing a very rudimentary proficiency in human language. Presumably Koko can articulate some conception of her rights.
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Still, one has to note that vegetarians will naturally not worry about things like e coli, trychinosis, samonella and other types of food poisoning associated with meats. Or mad cow disease!
What about the possible diseases you can get from eating vegetables? Such as ones you can get from say unclean vegetables? That is always a possibility. Amoebas?
"Any of various one-celled aquatic or parasitic protozoans of the genus Amoeba or related genera, having no definite form and consisting of a mass of protoplasm containing one or more nuclei surrounded by a flexible outer membrane. It moves by means of pseudopods."
Quite a nasty thing to have.
I have heard that vegans can get sicker easier too.
All you have to do is cook meats properly. Many people have it medium rare. But no unsubstantiated claims will stop me from eating meat.
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Another onewho actually witnessed things first hand rahter than relying on speculation and third hand perhaps biased sources.
Well, I've hunted before.
Geese are rather tasty when you pluck them, and gut them yourself.
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"Any of various one-celled aquatic or parasitic protozoans of the genus Amoeba or related genera, having no definite form and consisting of a mass of protoplasm containing one or more nuclei surrounded by a flexible outer membrane. It moves by means of pseudopods."
Quite a nasty thing to have.
How is an ameoba a bad thing to have? I bet you got some in you right now!
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I thought about the same thing in fact. I was very suprised after I've talked with a very religious and pro-life girl, who said that she doesn't care about animals, and that they can "praise the Lord by their pain too".
I was pretty embarassed.
On the other hand, I'm hesitant when it comes to testing stuff on animals. WHat is the alternative?
Oh, we could test the atuff on humans directly. Like the ones who were sentenced to death penalty. On the other hand, it's not right as well.
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