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    On the Washington Post's frontpage today, I read a rather disturbing story. It wasn't actual news, just one of those "issues" summaries they trot out for slow days, but still very creepy.

    Paddling as a form of punishment in school is still allowed in 22 of the United States. Specifically, Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, New Mexico, Tennessee, and Texas allow it pretty much everywhere, and a minority of districts in Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Wyoming allow it. It's banned elsewhere.

    Maybe this is old news to some of you, but I find it thoroughly backwards that a good third of the country instructs its school faculty to "burn students' butts if they step out of line," as a former Vice-Principal of a middle school in Mississipi was quoted (the V.P. had resigned after being told to paddle a little girl for talking back). According to the article, 342 thousand students were paddled in the U.S. in the year 2000. It drove home the point by mentioning that in no part of the country is it legal to smack prisoners on the rear as a disciplinary measure...

    Paddling advocates point out that the practice is strictly regulated; in Meridian, Miss., "three quick licks with an officially approved, quarter-inch-thick wooden paddle" is the maximum penalty allowed, and every state but Texas requires prior parental permission. But the idea that there's some kind of "arse-beating regulatory commission" to approve paddle thickness is even more depressing to me.

    I really wonder why we care so much about evolution in schools, while crap like this is going on.
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    /me realizes he hasn't had a stroke yet.

    I guess that means I don't care then.
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    • #3
      Re: In which all but the most conservative polypeople have a stroke...

      Originally posted by Elok
      I really wonder why we care so much about evolution in schools, while crap like this is going on.
      Becuase we are also able to walk and chew gum at the same time?

      I agree that schools should be done with corporal punishment.
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        I went to private schools in Michigan and was paddled quite often. Actually, the teacher usually used a yardstick or pointer. I'm not sure whether or not I support it, but I will say one thing, there were alot less problems and the faculty had alot more control of the schools then they do now.

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          urgh.NSFW

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          • #6
            I was never paddled in school, but I did get shut in a closet, though not locked. I guess they wanted me to be able to get out in case of fire, but I got out anyway, wandered around, then went back to the closet befoer the teacher showed up.
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              urgh.NSFW

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                Az: Don't
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                • #9
                  WTF ?!
                  urgh.NSFW

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                  • #10
                    I am truely shocked that corporal punishment is allowed in the US educational system. This is disgusting, and shocking.
                    urgh.NSFW

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                        A principal once yanked me up by my hair. It only happened once.

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                        • #13
                          A teacher once picked me up by the collar and pinned me against the wall for talking back and generally being an adolescent *****.

                          It only happened once, never had to happen again, and he remains one of my favorite teachers.
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                          • #14
                            It's tough love, folks.

                            Seriously...sometimes it's right IF they're young enough to not make the mental connection (which is one of the arguments in favor of paddling, but this is rare in a school environment.)

                            Otherwise, well, no.

                            There are many exceptions that make you want to smack the teacher upside the head instead of the student.

                            By the time the kid is old enough, paddling doesn't hurt anyway. It's just a joke if it's administered past a certain age.
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                            • #15
                              I think Paddling is wrong.

                              It dosn'ty go far enogh to be quite honest. When i think back to how much time a certain 1 or 2 kids would waste pissing about, I reckon just sending the regular misbehaviourists to the head to get a cople of wacks with the cane would have been much better.
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