Oerdin's Iraq thread.

[Dinner]

You could be screwed. Of course if you just stop showing up there is very little they can really do to you.

[Donegeal]

Sorry, just not showing up is not in my character.

Besides, how could I live with myself if something were to happen to my platoon and I "just didn't show up"?

[Dinner]

I was recommending it. I simply pointed out the fact there is little they can do about it to people who walk out at the end of their enlistment.

We had a fellow who refused to deploy to Iraq with the rest of us and nothing happened to him. I mean technically they could have called the MPs and had him arrested but there weren't any nearby active duty Army posts and even if there were I doubt it would be a priority for them.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by PLATO
Israeli intelligence gathering at work

I'm sure Israel has better ways to gather intelligence

I'm just trying to settle a dispute here in Apolyton. Oerdin can now finally shed light on the issues we've been discussing on Apolyton for almost a year now:

1. Do the ordinary Iraqis see the US troops as occupiers or liberators?

I've always claimed that the Iraqi people mostly see US as liberators and most claims against prolonged US occupation are provoked by foreign influences, rather than by common Iraqis.
That is to say, western lefties are angrier at temporary US control of Iraq than real Iraqis are.

Oerdin's posts show that even local Tikritis seem to like US soldiers.

2. Are the terracts performed by regular pro-saddam / anti-US Iraqis, or by foreigners who hate to see America win?

I always claimed that most actions are probably provoked by neighbouring states who fear an American success in Iraq would kill their regime.

I also suspected that just like in Chechnia or Afghanistan, a good deal of the terrorist attacks in Iraq is performed by non-locals, who are muslim fanatics.

Oerdin's posts seem to show that a large groups of terrorists are actually foreign (syrian, saudi, egyptian and so on).

The question remains, who (if anyone) is directing this? Or is this a popular cross-Islamic thing?


I hope Oerdin manages to shed some light on this, and I finally will get to say a big, fat I told you so to all the war critics.

[Lancer]

While you're digging Oerdin, keep your eye out for the odd bundle of cash...

[Sirotnikov]

While you're digging Oerdin, keep your eye out for the odd bundle of cash...

huh?

[Lancer]

Remember all the millions that were turning up in the beginning? Might be a few bundles strewn about...

[Barinthus]

What's IED means? Thanks

[PLATO]

Improvised explosive device

[FrantzX]

Improvised Explosive Device

[PLATO]

Okay, I guess it should be capitalized...

[voidmind1]

Article on IEDs here.

Accurate?

[voidmind1]

I've only seen one pic posted -- the one of the Humvee after the IED strike. I hope for more.

What would also be interesting, if possible (i.e. it won't get you in a load of trouble), would be to see what one of Psyop's "products" looks like, with translation back to English. I'm curious what messages are being put forward to the populace.

[ajbera]

How's Roscoe doing?

[Barinthus]

Thanks, guys and for the link too.