How can you believe homosexuality is a choice, unless you're bisexual?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by MrFun
I am going to wait for someone to explain to me, how you can justify imposing second-class citizenship on a group of people who make a choice of of any kind, that involves no harm to anyone.

Nobody forces you to make the choices that place you in the "excluded" group instead of the "included" group.

You can choose to believe that "blacks are dumber than whites" or "homosexuality is a disorder." Sure, your beliefs do not harm anybody, but don't be surprised if you are shunned.

[Capt Dizle]

This thread gives me a strange urge to drive to the mall, take the escalator to the top level and walk the rail shouting, " I am heterosexual you Godless bigots!"

"Can you hear me now?"

[Berzerker]

Sky -

Obviously his goal is not to prove that they are all bisexuals - that would be pointless - but rather to try and show they have no logical basis for their claims.

I know, I was just giving him sh!t.

There is growing evidence to support also that we're closer related to "Bonobo chimps" than "regular chimps". Bonobo chimps are the most openly bi-sexual animal I've ever seen, and they're smart as hell too, with more ability for language and tool use than normal chimps. Anyways, its very common for same sex bonobos to greet eachother with gentital rubbing, or if one is mad at another, one will basically give the angry one a hand job to reduce the tension. Also group bi, homo and hetero orgies are very common. Since they don't fight alot (as much as normal chimps) primatologists believe these orgies are a social stabalizer mechanism.

Keep your hands away from me you Bonobo's Uncle... I'm not tense damnit!

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
You will need to first prove that religion does not and did not harm others -- or rather, humanity as a whole.

But I digress. The point here is as long as you can make a conscious choice on an issue, it is a valid point of selection.

Say some restaurants do not accept clients who don't follow certain dress codes. You can certainly argue that your choice of not following these codes do not harm others, but that's besides the point.

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Nobody forces you to make the choices that place you in the "excluded" group instead of the "included" group.

You can choose to believe that "blacks are dumber than whites" or "homosexuality is a disorder." Sure, your beliefs do not harm anybody, but don't be surprised if you are shunned.

What a bunch of baffelgab.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

That's a great word. I'm stealing it.

[notyoueither]

Help! Help! My language is being pillaged by imperialist aggressors.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Berzerker


Keep your hands away from me you Bonobo's Uncle... I'm not tense damnit!

Oh really?



Look at the smile on that ones face.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by jimmytrick
This thread gives me a strange urge to drive to the mall, take the escalator to the top level and walk the rail shouting, " I am heterosexual you Godless bigots!"

"Can you hear me now?"

Yeah, we heterosexuals sure have it rough.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Guynemer


Yeah, we heterosexuals sure have it rough.

Well, yeah, keeping all those godless biggots in line can get tough.

[Nostromo]

I'm not bi, nor homosexual. But I still think homosexuality is, in part, a choice. Of course, you don't choose your sexual orientation. But you can choose not to come out of the closet, to have a wife and kids and be (probably) utterly miserable... There's an element of choice.

[Asher]

Of course it's technically a "choice" to act on it, but to most people it's not really a choice, lest they wish to choose to live an absolutely miserable life.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Asher, do you still consider yourself bi, or are you a full fledged homosexual now?

Edit: That sounded like an insult, but I'm just curious.

[Asher]

I'm a card-carrying member of the homosexual parties now.

Though, I still don't act stereotypically gay.

[Nostromo]

Originally posted by Asher
Of course it's technically a "choice" to act on it, but to most people it's not really a choice, lest they wish to choose to live an absolutely miserable life.

Unfortunately, a lot of homosexuals choose to kill themselves instead of being a "damn ***".

[Nostromo]

Originally posted by Asher

Though, I still don't act stereotypically gay.

You don't have to, you know... You can choose