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Anyway, I don't see why Asher cares if he is going to hell. He's already in with the Bossman.
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so how do you know it was a CHRISTIAN bible??
Because the salesman said so?
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@ Agathon
"I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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Hmm...why would bi-sexuality be a choice? If you're attracted to the opposite sex, same sex, or both, your attraction still isn't really a choice now, is it?I am left with the conclusion that the only people who truly believe that homosexuality is a choice are bisexual...
On a sidenote, are pedophiles making a choice? I doubt it, who would choose to be attracted to little kids? So "orientation" is not a valid factor in what should be legal or illegal...Comment
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It would be a somewhat amusing feat of Christianity if Bill Gates go to hell, being the world's greatest philanthropist.Originally posted by Agathon
Anyway, I don't see why Asher cares if he is going to hell. He's already in with the Bossman."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Somebody ought to swat you enough times so that you can start recognizing people's positions before arguing with them.Originally posted by Berzerker
Hmm...why would bi-sexuality be a choice? If you're attracted to the opposite sex, same sex, or both, your attraction still isn't really a choice now, is it?
On a sidenote, are pedophiles making a choice? I doubt it, who would choose to be attracted to little kids? So "orientation" is not a valid factor in what should be legal or illegal..."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
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pedophilia isn't illegal; having sex with kids isComment
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Gee Asher, you were the one who said only bi-sexuals should view homosexuality as a choice since they are attracted to both genders, i.e., they are making a choice. I merely pointed out that if attraction is not a choice, then it isn't a choice for bi-sexuals either. But instead of addressing what you said and what I said in response, you chose to lash out. A bit high strung tonight?Somebody ought to swat you enough times so that you can start recognizing people's positions before arguing with them.Comment
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I was showing a faulty string of logic as an obvious example of why people shouldn't be saying it's a choice. I was saying people who say it is a choice would have to be bisexual, because they can choose to only marry and have sexual relations with one of the genders.Originally posted by Berzerker
Gee Asher, you were the one who said only bi-sexuals should view homosexuality as a choice since they are attracted to both genders, i.e., they are making a choice. I merely pointed out that if attraction is not a choice, then it isn't a choice for bi-sexuals either. But instead of addressing what you said and what I said in response, you chose to lash out. A bit high strung tonight?
But thank you for being rather dense..."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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I think some people need to CHILL! And don't even think of continuing it in other threads!Keep on Civin'
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Agreed, it's not a valid factor, however most of us feel that consent is.Originally posted by Berzerker
On a sidenote, are pedophiles making a choice? I doubt it, who would choose to be attracted to little kids? So "orientation" is not a valid factor in what should be legal or illegal...Comment
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Asher -You made no mention of marriage in your opening post, just that people who believe homosexuality is a choice must be bi-sexual. Here is what you said:I was showing a faulty string of logic as an obvious example of why people shouldn't be saying it's a choice. I was saying people who say it is a choice would have to be bisexual, because they can choose to only marry and have sexual relations with one of the genders.
But thank you for being rather dense...
So, why is bi-sexuality a choice? You've committed the same error you decry in your post - concluding an "orientation" is chosen.I am always perplexed by people who insist homosexuality is a choice. Is heterosexuality a choice for them? Have they sat down and decided if they would like men or women?
This would be the reason they believe homosexuality is a choice, right? Because they could choose themselves? If not, where do they get this idea that it's a choice?
I am left with the conclusion that the only people who truly believe that homosexuality is a choice are bisexual...
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The last sentence was meant in jest, for the most part.Originally posted by Berzerker
So, why is bi-sexuality a choice? You've committed the same error you decry in your post - concluding an "orientation" is chosen.
You are obviously having problems with logic though, I never said bisexuality is a choice. Being bisexual while choosing to only have intercourse with women, while assuming the same can be true for all gay people who simply choose to have sex with men -- that would be a choice.
It's still not the point. Maybe you should sit on it for a bit."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Mindseye -But this thread is about orientation, not consent.Agreed, it's not a valid factor, however most of us feel that consent is.
Asher -Ah, the old "don't expose the illogic in my post, it was a joke" trick?The last sentence was meant in jest, for the most part.
You said people who consider the homosexual orientation to be a choice must be people who chose their orientation and that must mean they are bi-sexual. Now you never said that?You are obviously having problems with logic though, I never said bisexuality is a choice.
If a bi-sexual chooses only to have sex with the opposite (or same) gender, then they really aren't practicing bi-sexuals. But what does that have to do with the possibility that orientation is not a choice regardless of whom you find attractive?Being bisexual while choosing to only have intercourse with women, while assuming the same can be true for all gay people who simply choose to have sex with men -- that would be a choice.
What was the point? Oh yeah, people who think homosexuality is a choice must be bi-sexual because bi-sexuality is a choice.It's still not the point. Maybe you should sit on it for a bit.
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