Are the left anti-democracy?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
I am in favour of the headscarf ban.

What fvcking justification is there to suppress religious freedom of expression with something retarded like a headscarf ban??

[MikeH]

Don't forget his latent racism, he wants everyone to be the same as him.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by MrFun
What fvcking justification is there to suppress religious freedom of expression with something retarded like a headscarf ban??

The justification is that you consider wearing a headscarf (or any conspicuous religious symbol for that matter) as being proselytism, as being a pressure, if not an oppression, on other pupils' minds.

You may disagree with the logic of banning proselytist behaviour at school, but you can't say there is no fathomable justification.

[Solly]

What fvcking justification is there to suppress religious freedom of expression with something retarded like a headscarf ban??

Calm down, we don't want someon's eye out.

Separation of state and religion, dumbass.

[Urban Ranger]

Re: Are the left anti-democracy?

Originally posted by Park Avenue
1) They don't support the establishment of a democracy in the Middle East. They'd rather we left Iraq alone.

You really think the purpose of invading Iraq was to establish a democracy?

Originally posted by Park Avenue
2) Whenever a right-wing group is voted in, the talk is about how "dangerous" or "scary" their policies are, such as the spread of democracy.

Any actual cases? Like, links to previous threads?

Originally posted by Park Avenue
3) The majority are against such things as gay marriage or gay adoption, yet the left want to force these things through anyway.

Stew, your anti-gay stance does not go unnoticed.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Park Avenue


Calm down, we don't want someon's eye out.

Separation of state and religion, dumbass.

No dumbass -- that does not violate separation of state and religion.

When individuals wear religious apparel in public places, no state government is sanctioning that individual's religion.

[Solly]

"Stew, your anti-gay stance does not go unnoticed."

I am watching my language.

If unsure, I will simply respond with smileys. Smileys aren't cause for banning are they.

[MikeH]

Just make sure you don't do something stupid like calling them bummers.

[Ned]

Originally posted by MrFun


No dumbass -- that does not violate separation of state and religion.

When individuals wear religious apparel in public places, no state government is sanctioning that individual's religion.

MrFun, you and I see this the same way. It is a wonder that the French do not get it.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ned
Details. Links.

Both of these were Constitutional amenedments I and my fellow Floridians voted in (I voted for the first, I lived in Chicago when the 2nd one was enacted).

Bush says he'd skirt class-size limit

Bush threatens to thwart high-speed rail

I can't find our House speaker's current plans to limit our initiatives, but it's been on the radio a lot lately. I'll see what else I can find. Basically, he says it's too easy to get an initiative on the ballot, so he wants to make it harder. That's crap actually. It takes a hell of a lot of effort and you have to get signatures from every stinkin' county, not merely get a certain number of citizens to approve.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Ned
MrFun, you and I see this the same way. It is a wonder that the French do not get it.

The French get it, they just disagree. American's always seem to think everyone else believes in freedom of religion too, and has laws for it. We don't, at least not in at all the same way.

Euro's get it, we just disagree.

[MikeH]

Well, some of us. I get it and agree. Why should people be banned from wearing religious dress in public? I don't think it harms anyone.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ned
MrFun, you and I see this the same way. It is a wonder that the French do not get it.

You have to remember that in Europe, states often had official religions, to which you had to belong or face penalties, and that they had vicious religious wars killing millions. We were founded after all that, and our laws are a reaction to that. So are theirs, but in a different way.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by MikeH
Well, some of us. I get it and agree. Why should people be banned from wearing religious dress in public?

Because they are kids and do not have a choice. Their parents make them wear religious dress. It's not a choice.

[MikeH]

My parents used to dress me up slightly smarter than average at my rough primary school and I used to get bullied for it. Should they have been banned from doing so?