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What's that word for officially saying you will no longer abide by a treaty? 
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Yeah, like the US gives a $#% about international agreements.Visit First Cultural Industries
There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General LuddComment
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Welching?
The point is that you have to enforce authority. Good luck trying to enforce the belief that you own the moon...12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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I think it will never come to anything. GW needs to stick to message. The Mars thing is silliness.Comment
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TCO, the one Bush used in regards to Kyoto was "unsign".Visit First Cultural Industries
There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General LuddComment
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Is white out a prerequisite for that?
And no, I don't believe Bush will send anyone either to the moon or to Mars.
He just doesn't have the money.
Big talk doesn't cost him anything.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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Kyoto was never ratified. Astro would be different. abbrogate or somebhtingComment
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What do these look like?Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Not according to international agreements on extraterrestrial bodies they won't.
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They say that nobody can own any real estate anwhere off the Earth.
12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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he meant an international agreement. Sneaky frenchman. ooops you are sorta one, halfbreed.Comment
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I am composed of all the races that have lost wars to the English.
Scottish
French
Irish
Native American
German (decreasing order)12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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I agree with TCO that Bush needs to stay on message. This crap costs a whole lot of money. Apollo was stupifyingly expensive.
That said, the moon does have its merits. Mainly, I doubt that the US would maintain this effort consistently over the 30 or 40 years it would take to go to Mars. Going to Mars in 10 would break the bank.
The moon would offer us a good place to park our sh!t while we get our stuff in order. Making a permanent depot/un-manned base on the moon is doable with some digging equipment and water. The space station requires too much consistent upkeep.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
You can't build spaceships out of aluminum...
You don't usually build them out of iron, either, right? Isn't the Space Shuttle some titanium thing?
Plus, what's wrong with aluminum?
Originally posted by Sikander
I think the money could be better spent right now improving our current environment. In the long run sure, but I don't want to see a vague program started for this right now.
And Columbus' voyage was a waste of time too, right? We're going to do something like this sometime. Why not now? If we wait for Earth to be nice and perfect first, the sun will explode and we'll still be stuck there
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The Columbus analogy is BS. We know that we won't find anybody on Mars to enslave and to steal gold from. Further, we don't have anybody to trade with on the other side of the solar system between us and Mars.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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The natives had to get the gold from somewhere, didn't they? Even without the natives, the gold would have been there for the taking. It's the resources out there, and the real estate.
Plus, I want to go to AC and see some mind worms
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