Bush to announced manned mission to Mars and permanent base on moon

[The Mad Monk]

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/moon98/pdf/6007.pdf

[PLATO]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse

I think those NASA pages are overly optimistic.

And your source for this opinion?

[KrazyHorse]

That everything I've ever read has always mentioned the paucity of lunar material in heavier metals.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/moon98/pdf/6007.pdf

This is a better source.

Seems high to me (to have surface iron concentrations around 10%)

If it's true, then that improves suitability of moon as launching point.

Still not as good as a Ni-Fe asteroid though.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Still not as good as a Ni-Fe asteroid though.

Without a doubt, but what would the expense of moving an asteroid into HEO? Not to mention the danger from a botched entry into its orbit.

A moon base that works would truly open the solar system to us. The best part is that it looks like it is plausible!

[Mordoch]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


This is a better source.

Seems high to me (to have surface iron concentrations around 10%)

If it's true, then that improves suitability of moon as launching point.

Still not as good as a Ni-Fe asteroid though.

Its already in a stable orbit where you don't have to worry about it crashing into Earth or some satellites tommorow. More significantly the amount of gravity on the Moon should increase the ease of construction considerably in comparison to what you would have with an astroid. (Its not as easy at it looked in the movie Armageddon! )

[The Mad Monk]

No problem with asteroids, I just think we should hit the moon first.

It wil be good experience for our forays onto other worlds -- which is critical to our long-term survival.

[PLATO]

Well here is a little paper on non carbon polymers I found. Not exactly what I was looking for but on the right track I think.

http://www.chemistry.mcmaster.ca/faculty/brook/brook-book-99.pdf

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
And no iron?

Archer rush?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by PLATO


Thanks Spiffor.

Watching the first man step on the moon live is something you young whippersnappers can never have

Now according to some Apolytoners, that first moon landing was all just propaganda -- smoke and mirrors.

[Donegeal]

Ok, if we can move an iron asteroid into HEO, but are worried about a miscalulation that would send it crashing to the Earth, why do we move it and crash it into the moon on purpose?

It would be a one time expense of getting out to the asteroid.
A one time cost of moving materials.
And we could then build a Lunar base somewhat close to where we crashed the Iron and then go mine it at our lesisure.

[Edan]

Polymer ships? Polymers are usually made with carbon (IIRC). Silicon makes glass and semiconductors, not much else.

Spaceships use a lot of metal.

Not if we detonate an explosion in Nuclear Waste Disposal Area 2 and hurl the moon towards Mars ala

[Tingkai]

This is the kiss of death for NASA.

We are talking about Bush, a guy who consistently lies and who doesn't know the meaning of truth.

Everytime he praises a government program, he turns around and cuts it budget.

When Bush actually gives NASA more money, then I'll believe him. Right now, his talk is cheap.

[Flip McWho]

Man, this would be sooooooo cool. Like sooo cool.



I'd like the base on the moon over mars trip, though doing both is as I said cool.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Lorizael
deleted. Just realized the point I made was irrelevant.

It's more polite to allow others the pleasure of pointing that out.