Are you illegal?

[notyoueither]

I am very much against copyright for copyright's sake. Copyright is a tool that's supposed to encourage innovation. Claiming that copyrights longer than the ones mandated in the Berne Convention is ludicrous.

I don't think Berne has run out on any software, has it?

[Ming]

Yeah... I would love to see how some of these people's opinions would change if they were the one being ripped off

[Urban Ranger]

I download software. to Free Software and OSS. In fact, I am using Firebird on Linux right now

On a theoretical level, though, I can't see how you can copyright software, e.g. the executables. Sure, arguably you can copyright the source code, but the executables are compiled, and have no direct correspondence to the sources whatsoever.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Ming
Yeah... I would love to see how some of these people's opinions would change if they were the one being ripped off

Don't forget some of us develop OSS software

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Ming
if you want to do it... your decision, but don't try to justify it. It is still theft, and it makes you a thief.

Is Ming renouncing capitalism?!

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
I am very much against copyright for copyright's sake. Copyright is a tool that's supposed to encourage innovation. Claiming that copyrights longer than the ones mandated in the Berne Convention is ludicrous.

I don't think Berne has run out on any software, has it?

The counter question is then, are software companies obliged to support any and all programs they have that are still under copyright?

[notyoueither]

What does that have to do with DL'ing software?

[Urban Ranger]

Are you going to answer my question or simply try to sidetrack?

If companies are obliged to support all the programs they published, failure to do so will mean that they give up the copyrights to the programs they no longer support.

[notyoueither]

Ah, I see. Abandonware, or some such. However, sir, the thread is about stealing sw (and other things) by downloading it (them).

Tell me, just how much support does a musician need to provide after laying down the track?

And, just what does the lack of support for DOS 5 have to do with people downloading the latest PhotoShop, games, or other software?

So, it is you who are trying to take this into a sidetrack, yes?

[Space05us]

Paris Hilton

she's an anorexic toff

as for dl stuff illegaly, Ive downloaded a game before. Butt it sucked and while it was downloading I had nothing to do, it took three days. I never did that again.

[Dinner]

I'll buy most video games I want but I only buy 2-3 per year. I'll download or buy illegal copies of most music and movies though.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I buy the things I want. I don't download anything illegal.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Is Ming renouncing capitalism?!

Only is Stalinism is considered true Communism .

[laurentius]

I am currently trying to download Civ2 from ED2K networks. I dont think I'm doing anything wrong since I bought the original game in 1996 and again in 2000 after the original cd got too scratched. Now I have lost the one I bought in 2000 and I'm sure as hell not going to buy Civ2 a third time. Even if there is store somewhere that still sells it.
So I'm searching for civ2 ISO image. PM me I you want to help me, I can provide proof of the 2 cds I've bought.

[Sikander]

I don't steal any of it. The only temptation I have to steal are music CDs and DVDs, because I hate spending the 5 minutes it takes to get all the damn security tape off of them.