Has the time come for a revived CSA?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The South. There was a lynching of a black kid who was dating the white sheriff's daughter ni a small Florida town just recently.

If we're going to compare things to the bad old days, can we get the rest of the story concerning the murder investigation? These things aren't taken as lightly here as they used to be.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by PLATO
Value systems between the north and South are widening to gulfs not seen since the War of northern Aggression (Civil War to you Yankees).

Care to elaborate on that statement?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by PLATO


I believe that many more whites in the South listened to Dr. King than whites in the north. Far more in the South do I see Southerners judging a man by the content of his character than the color of his skin than I see that in the north. Maybe it was collective guilt...maybe they just saw the problem more clearly. In any event, I agree...the South now may have less of a racial problem then the north.

WHAT?? During the Civil Rights movement there was mass resistance by white Southerners against white and black activists.


As for today's race relations, it's pathetic how we have not come to terms with its historical legacy -- both in the North, and in the South.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by PLATO
Value systems between the north and South are widening to gulfs not seen since the War of northern Aggression (Civil War to you Yankees).

This is one example of the political agenda that emerged with the "Lost Cause" mythology during and after Reconstruction -- they favor a name of the war that distorts its history.


Many of us Northerners hate you calling the Civil War "War of Northern Aggression" just as you would hate it if I called it the "War of Southern Stupidity."

Both names are grossly unfair.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by MrFun


WHAT?? During the Civil Rights movement there was mass resistance by white Southerners against white and black activists.

Dude, That was 40 years ago now. Please catch up. The South has far far outstripped your ideas of it. This type of thinking is what perpetuates the thought train that has produced most of your posts in this thread. You simply don't know the South as post after post shows.

Come live here for a few years...you will be amazed.

[MrFun]

So then why were you talking about "listening to Martin Luther King Jr.?"

[PLATO]

Originally posted by MrFun
So then why were you talking about "listening to Martin Luther King Jr.?"

King's statements were not for the moment. They were obviously some of the more profound and unifying statements of the 20th century.

[MrFun]

Ok.

But as far as I'm concerned, as long as people cling to the sentimental, romantic "Lost Cause" mythology, we will not get very far in race relations -- North or South, since a number of white Northerners have been duped by this "Lost Cause" nonsense as well.

[Kuciwalker]

Re: Has the time come for a revived CSA?

no

[PLATO]

Originally posted by MrFun
Ok.

But as far as I'm concerned, as long as people cling to the sentimental, romantic "Lost Cause" mythology, we will not get very far in race relations -- North or South, since a number of white Northerners have been duped by this "Lost Cause" nonsense as well.

I believe that you are the only one clinging to the "Lost Cause" nonsense. It is nothing more that carpetbagger history anyway.

[MrFun]

Wrong again.

You can't distort the history of the Civil War and Reconstruction by glorifying the North's motives and methods anymore than you should by glorifying the South's motives and methods.


But apparently, Southerners take their glorification of butchered history as objective, scholarly history.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


A libertarian dictatorship? I'm not quite sure how to classify that. Would it be anarcho-fascism? Wasn't that a Giancarlo fantasy at one time? Or was it coined by EVC? You've been hanging around with the wrong crowd DF. You're really really close to the edge now.

You know what comes next don't you? Yep. You come out of the closet.

anarcho-fascism

[PLATO]

Originally posted by GePap
As I have said half a dozen tmies, good riddens! We don;t need those poor states sucking of the fruits of blue state labor! Off with them!

Okay!

Population - 1993 data, in thousands Gross Domestic Product -1990 data, in millions of U.S. Dollars
Regions of the U.S. Regions of the U.S.

Census Bureau Regions Population Census Bureau Regions GDP
Northeast 51,355
Midwest 61,070
South 89,438
West 58,044

Census Bureau Regions GDP
Northeast 1,247,080
Midwest 1,264,262
South 1,751,759
West 1,235,890

Another northern misconception. So many...so little time...

[PLATO]

Originally posted by MrFun
Wrong again.

You can't distort the history of the Civil War and Reconstruction by glorifying the North's motives and methods anymore than you should by glorifying the South's motives and methods.


But apparently, Southerners take their glorification of butchered history as objective, scholarly history.

Where have I glorified the South's methods? Of course I will definately glorify the underlying motive...Strict interpretation of the United States Constitution. The centralizing of the Federal Government and the stripping of the States power was never intended by the founding fathers. Your education is sooo based on the "victors write the history books" mentality. I am old enough to remember stories being told by aunts and uncles whose parents lived through it. They were there...no theories...no revisionist Yankee histories...They were there.

[Kuciwalker]

And btw, slavery wasnt legal, it just wasnt illegal. Maybe people forgot to read the constitution since it states that all men are created equal. That was a real bugger to plantation owners, and the southern business class. So to get around it, the southern states said that slaves arnt people, they are property. But then to get more representation in congress, they counted each slave as 3/5th of a person. What a sham.

Umm... "All men are created equal" was said in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. The Declaration of Independence, FYI, has no legal mandate