Dean wants to be the candidate for those flying the Confederate Flag

[Capt Dizle]

I don't see any reason to call anyone a cracker.

You don't really see the redneck's vote much actually.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
If the GOP could get (minority) people to vote their social interests,

All they'd have to do is stop being such damned racists. When Black Republicans start leaving then party because of how they are treated (show up for photo ups, then go away), then the Repugs have absolutely no claim to the loayalties of anyone aside from clueless kids like you. The Repugs invited the Dixiecrats into the party, and they took over. They have no one to blame but themselves for how they are perceived. "If only Strom Thurmond had been elected President."

You are so stupid when it comes to race.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
First off the Repubicans aren't racist, their economically biased.

Actually, they are extremely racist.

The Democrats are the racists. The KKK is a Democrat special interest. The Confederacy was Democrat, the slaveowners were Democrats, and waving the Confederate flag is a ploy to gain Southern Democrat votes.

The Klan don't vote Democrat no more. Not since 1948, when Northern liberal Dem's made a decision to break with the Dixiecrats and make an outreach to Black voters (who were still largely voting Republican at the time. Even into the 1960s, up to one third of Blacks still voted Republican.

Then came Barry Goldwater's run for the president and his vocal opposition to Civil Rights. Then came Nixon's "Southern Strategy," too woo the Dixiecrats into the Republican Party. Then came Helm's filibuster against Martin Luther King Day. Then came Reagan's opposition to an extension of the Civil Rights bill. Then came the Republicans hammering home on the theme of "unqualifed" Blacks taking jobs from "deserving" whites. Then came The Bell Curve and The End of Racism.

The decendents of the people who fought to keep slavery are today the people who run Lincoln's party. One of the great ironies of history, doncha think?

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
When Black Republicans start leaving then party because of how they are treated

I was unaware of the mass Republican exodus, please enlighten me if you can.............

[Imran Siddiqui]

if he actually supports the NRA

Yep... that he does.

They have no one to blame but themselves for how they are perceived. "If only Strom Thurmond had been elected President."

How much better is that than saying: "I still want to be the candidate for guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks"

I love the Dean guys trying to plow this over. If Bush said this they'd be all over him, saying how he's a racist and whatnot. Ah, politics... gotta love it .

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Sava
He just wants to appeal to the broadest possible spectrum.

They don't vote in Democratic primaries. You should wait until the general election to slit your own throat with your Southern hating base.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb

I was unaware of the mass Republican exodus, please enlighten me if you can.............

You'd have to have a mass of Black Republicans in the first place. Key Black Republicans who have left in disgust include: J.C. Watts (former Republican congressman), Robert Woodson, and Glenn Loury who both previously worked for the American Enterprise Institute and left when it helped publish The Bell Curve and The End of Racism. I'm sure, if I looked hard enough, I could find more.

[NeOmega]

Honestly I hope Dean apologizes for the wording..... it was dumb and I am a little shocked. It would be nice to see a politician nip this one in the butt and pre-emptively apologize before people start calling for him to step out of the race.

And Michael Moore is a card carrying memeber of the NRA, and I watched bowling for columbine....

And I like Dean's stance on gun control.

[MrFun]

Re: Dean wants to be the candidate for those flying the Confederate Flag

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Just thought all the Dean supporters should be aware of this. After all, many of them think that when Republicans back the Confederate flag, they are pandering to racists. Is Dean pandering to racists?

Great -- now I'm not so sure about Howard Dean. I may have to choose one of the other candidates.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I may have to choose one of the other candidates.

Pick Kerry .

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
How much better is that than saying: "I still want to be the candidate for guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks"

I think Dean just killed his shot at the nomination. If he'd left out the word "Confederate" he'd have been fine. I would hope he didn't mean it the way it sounds, as though he's aligning himself with the people of Southern Partisan.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
First off the Repubicans aren't racist, their economically biased.

The Democrats are the racists. The KKK is a Democrat special interest. The Confederacy was Democrat, the slaveowners were Democrats, and waving the Confederate flag is a ploy to gain Southern Democrat votes.

The only reason the Democratic party calls Republicans racist is to cover up their own history as the Nazi Party equivilent of United States.

God this is an ignorant statement.

The Republican party and the Democratic party went through a political realingment in the 1890s and 1930s, so that today, they are two different parties than they were in the 1850s through 1880s.

The Republican party in the mid-nineteenth century was an activist party for civil rights and stronger federal government.

The Democratic party in the min-nineteenth century was a white supremacist party and advocated stronger states' rights.

To say that these two parties are the same today as they were in the mid-nineteenth century is incredibly naive.

[Al B. Sure!]

had Dean said "American flag" instead of "Confederate flag" would there have been a difference in his meaning? aren't poor, southern whites among the most patriotic americans? they probably fly the stars and stripes right alongside the stars and bars.

[Al B. Sure!]

The Republican party in the mid-nineteenth century was an activist party for civil rights and stronger federal government.

yet the voting base of the GOP has remained the same, being composed of a coalition of the religious right (many of whom were opposed to slavery) and big business (GOP tariffs [the other big issue that started the war] were wanted by northern industry). this coalition has remained constant all through the GOP's history.

[NeOmega]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
had Dean said "American flag" instead of "Confederate flag" would there have been a difference in his meaning? aren't poor, southern whites among the most patriotic americans? they probably fly the stars and stripes right alongside the stars and bars.

My guess is it slipped out of his mouth as he was thinking of something one of his advisors said about luring southern votes in a closed door meeting. He really should apologize and move on. Strange he did this while being attacked by Al Sharpton, very strange.