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Originally posted by Osweld
Well, that's bull. Someone gets shot and no one's responsible?
Well, that's bull. Someone gets shot and no one's responsible?
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Alright then, you're responsible. Feel better?He's got the Midas touch.
But he touched it too much!
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If GTA creates future gunmen, CIV creates future dictators. Ban it!
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one of the things i hate about arguments like this is that im 99% sure a game like this is actually junk anyway, but I really cant claim that without having played it, and I'll be damned if im going to go buy a game like this just to make a point here.Originally posted by Dissident
I knew this would happen eventually. I am suprised it took this long.
I wonder how long it will take before someone is hacked to death by a samuri sword until a lawsuit if filed against Tarantino, Disney, and Miramax films.
In any case I must agree GTA III is a very irresponsible game. Though I have played it. I wasn't really good, so I quit playing."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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gta3 is fun for the first few hundred times you just whack an old lady with a baseball bat.
then it gets boring. what's the point? it's the same old lady over and over again.B♭3Comment
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why would it be fun to whack an old lady with a baseball bat?Originally posted by Q Cubed
gta3 is fun for the first few hundred times you just whack an old lady with a baseball bat.
then it gets boring. what's the point? it's the same old lady over and over again.
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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because it's so wrong.
that said, doing that sort of thing and wreaking havoc is only fun for about 30 minutes.
rockstar's more recent game, state of emergency, followed up on that same openness present in gta3. you could do more evil things, if you wished, with more weapons and more everything.
sales aren't too good, and it was panned by reviewers. doing bad sh|t like that is fun when it's novel. after about an hour's worth of play, you're ready to move on to something more substantial.B♭3Comment
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This case winning could set one of the most disturbing precedents I can imagine.
It's not a leap to say the principle could be extended to books and movies and music. Soon, authors will be afraid of writing anything violent at all. Movies will consist of no action, and (c)rappers won't be able to say anything about shootin' the other rappers (or whatever it is they excrement about).
Although I hate the man and I hate him for all he is worth, Eminem provides a catchy (c)rap for this kind of thing.
It ain't the game. It ain't the game developer. It's kids who need medication, or it's parents who practice extreme neglect.They say music can alter moods and talk to you
Well can it load a gun up for you , and **** it too
Well if it can, then the next time you assault a dude
Just tell the judge it was my fault and i'll get suedmeet the new boss, same as the old bossComment
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sometimes i wish that canadians would invade the US and force us to live like them."I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
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No, but be careful in case she tries to stick a large arrow into the top of your head.Originally posted by Snotty
All I want to know is if I let my girlfriend play 'the sims' will she then try and blare a horn in my ear?
It's Skanky's fault.Originally posted by Osweld
Well, that's bull. Someone gets shot and no one's responsible?
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Geez, and when I write about antisemitism people accuse ME of being thin skinned
Get real people. This lawsuit aint goint anywhere. There may be studies showing violent games increase aggresssiveness, but that aint going to lead to a successful suit wrt to a murder. Lawsuits against tobacco manufacturers relied on data that cigs CAUSED CANCER, NOT that they caused coughs, and by extension cancer. COntrary to right wing ideologues, you actually have to have a reasonable case to get damages in our courts. And of course the developers can always use the rating as a shield - and both developers and retailer will use the rating to claim the parent should have known it was an inappropriate game.
So i wouldnt go about buying GTA on speculation that it will soon be in short supply. Dont worry. We can look forward to many more years of games like this, of slasher movies, and of violent rap songs continuing to pollute our culture, to degrade our youth, and to brutalize our society. It aint gonna be stopped by tort lawyers or by politicians. It MIGHT be stopped by shaming the producers and retailers, by consumer boycotts, by personally avoiding such products, and by trying to positively reshape our culture."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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It would be wrong to go assasinate a producer of violent games. Can we look forward to an FPS about that?Originally posted by Q Cubed
because it's so wrong.
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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How about settling for hacking into their system and destroying all their computer systems and work? There's a game where you can do that.Originally posted by lord of the mark
It would be wrong to go assasinate a producer of violent games. Can we look forward to an FPS about that?
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so if and when the producers of Half Life sue Micro$oft, will you be here to accuse them of foresaking personal responsibility, abusing the lawcourts, etc, etcOriginally posted by Osweld
How about settling for hacking into their system and destroying all their computer systems and work? There's a game where you can do that.
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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But yeah, I agree with you. Games go too far these days.
Not like the good ol' days of civ, where kids could be introduced to usefull and holsome concepts like nationalism, war, genocide, nuclear anhilation, and sabotage, ect...
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It would be wrong to go assasinate a producer of violent games. Can we look forward to an FPS about that?
well, actually, there are plenty of games where you can kill other people. some are awful, like postal 2, some are tolerable, like gta3.
you're missing the point of these video games: it's escapism, pure and simple. some of these kids want to do things that they know are impossible to do in real life; by and large, most of these kids also can tell the difference between the game world and the real world.
put it another way: some people like bum sex. why? because most of us were raised to think that it is taboo. so when people actually engage in it, they experience the rush of andrenaline from trying something that's wrong. same with people who participate in the mile high club, or those that begin to practice all sorts of deviancies.
gaming is no different in this respect. the escapist factor of not having to pay any consequences for nuking a city, or sniping and killing a bunch of people, or any of a number of highly illegal/highly dangerous/socially questionable deeds gives that andrenaline rush. that's why it's fun for a while.
if a game was made that focused on trying to assassinate the makers of daikatana, and it had ragdoll physics, people would play it for a while, simply because it's new, and it lets you do things that are wrong.
what's so hard to grasph about that?B♭3Comment
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