South Africa's Dirty Little Secret

[Shi Huangdi]

Horribly disgusting. Makes you wonder if in some circumstance these crimes should warrant pain of death.

[tinyp3nis]

I saw a document some time ago about this rape situation in south africa, but it didn't consentrate that much on child rape. To find out that 60 kids a day get raped is surprising eventhought I knew that S.Africa is the rape nation of the world. They said in the document that while some rapes maybe racial, the problem isn't that much racial, everyone gets raped.

[Berzerker]

However surely the level of alcohol intake and the level of sexual abuse of children is co-related. Indeed in Greenland where there is also a high level of alcohol abuse there is also a corresponding level of child abuse.

That MIGHT be somewhat convincing if the child abuse in Greenland was actually child rape. If this link between alcohol and child rape were a reality, wouldn't we see high rates of child rape in Russia or any other place with lot's of booze? No, drinking booze doesn't induce child rape.

[Berzerker]

By racial, I mean inter-tribal.

[Gatekeeper]

Terrible, terrible story. I cringed while reading it and envisioned a stranger do that to my younger loved ones — and as civilized as I profess myself to be, I would be sorely tempted to hunt down the perps and execute them with the business end of a gun.

Gatekeeper

[The Mad Monk]

Declare open season.

Anybody who finds one of these things happening and has a pistol handy, can blow the brains out of anyone wih their **** out, no legal penalties.

If that dosen't work, add bounties. One hundred dollars a ****.

[Ben Kenobi]

"Sometimes you have to believe in absolute evil."

I have no further comment.

Some things defy rational explanation. This is one of them. Science cannot explain why something like this happens because it does not follow the rules.

I had heard the AIDS explanation, but I had no idea that only one of the cases supported that presupposition.

[Spiffor]

I know it is tempting for you people to open the hunt season, and I actually would really enjoy seeing such monsters being lynched. But I hope you guys know such an easy 'solution' isn't enough by far, and can even be contraproductive.

If there is any validity in current hypotheses, it is a specific category of the population that indulges in this monstrous gratuitous violence (don't forget infant rape is only a part of a bigger picture: gratuitous violence galore). A category of the population who is hateful against society. A category of the population who has no future and no fear of death (45% of the rapists have AIDS !).
Shooting them won't deter new people like that to appear. On the contrary, it will make this category of population feel even more oppressed by society, and there may be even more people wanting to get revenge on society by perpetrating the most monstrous act a human being can do. :Puke:

Besides, if you systematise the use of individual violence against infant rapists, you'll make sure that mob rule will kill throngs of innocents who happened to be too much at the wrong place at the wrong time. There is a reason vigilante "justice" is avoided in any developed society: it is hardly a justice at all, but rather a mob rule often manipulated by local charismatic people.

The solution ? I can't say, but I'd suppose the massive distribution of generic anti-AIDS medication would be a good start. A temporary prohibition of hard alcohol could help, because the consumption is really over the line, and prohibition could have some chance of succeeding in lowering it. Keep the guys in the villages rather than in townships with a successful agriculture. Etc.

Yes, it'll continue to be 60 infant rapes a day. Yes, it'll continue to be a humongous amount of 'normal' rape too But I think your bright ideas will only bring about more suffering among the innocents, even more anarchy, and even more infant rapes in the end.

[Pekka]

Let's just nuke the whole damn continent and make it a big shopping center for us with lots of air conditioners. Problem solved.

[Spiffor]

They produce the uranium we need to build nukes.

[Pekka]

We already have enough nukes, we don't need more anyway. Another problem solved right there.

Naturally I'm only kidding. Infant rape is something beyond imagination.

[Sandman]

This child has no-one to go out and avenge her. The mother hardly cared. Vigilantism will only cause more problems.

[Plan Austral]

This is so horrible that I can only think of stoning those bastards to death or something like that.

[Velociryx]

Oh, I quite agree that vigilante justice isn't the best solution, or even a particularly good one. Nor is it in any way a *complete* solution, however:

* When the local law enforcement agencies have shown an ongoing inability/lack of motivation to solve the problem

* When the crimes are perpetrated against those who cannot defend themselves

* When those crimes are so hateful and violent and violating in nature they they make grown men here flinch to read about them

Yes...at that point by God, SOMETHING needs to be done. If it was your daughter that was next, what? Are you honestly telling me you'd just sit back and wring your hands saying "Oh, there's nothing to be done....we must study this issue to find the root cause?"

Or is it more likely by far, that you would pick up a gun or a knife or a rock and go hunting for the bastard that did it?

60 a day is 60 too many. They keep getting away with it cos nobody is taking them to task for it, and for that reason, they feel emboldened to do it again. Why not? Nobody's after them....there's no price to pay. No danger to them.

Maybe it's time that changed. If the cops won't change it, then the people who live among them should.

-=Vel=-

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Sprayber



So everyone that don't agree with you are fascist?

...Like Vel said, go back to studying the issue, and let those who can deal with it do what they must.

No I am saying that people who merely want to bust heads in or turn South Africa into a parking lot express fascist symphaties. People can agree with me all they want to, however I would hope that the majority of people in the real world is against vigilante justice.

And how is Vel going to 'deal with it'. He would like to kill them, but us he ready to do that? Would he really go to South Afriaca and seek out those people? Would he be ready to be imprisoned in a South African prison? If he responds with a positive, well I would have to respect that. I do hope however that his familiy and loved ones would have him committed to be treated of his insanity.