Zero Tolerance or just zero common sense?

[Dinner]

The administrators should spend much more time thinking about the intent of a certain policy and then think up ways they can help this intent instead of hinder the intent. Clearly, the plicy was to prevent illegal drug use and not to stop choking asthmatics from recieving the medications which were already perscribed to her. The boy wasn't trying to get his girlfriend high he was trying to prevent her from choking to death and he did it using the one thing which could prevent that.

[Q Classic]

zero tolerance works.

i mean, we stopped that girl from pushing midol on other girls, because midol causes mensturation--and we don't want that in our schools.

that first grader who kiss a girl? stopped him too. we had to teach him that kissing can be a sexual crime, and thereby stopped him from ever being a sexual offender ever again.

we also stopped a young girl who might have grown up to be a terrorist if we hadn't caught her and told her that a keychain with a <1" diameter slinky on the end could be used as a weapon.

see? zero tolerance works. i don't know why you guys keep pointing out these so-called failures. i call them successes.

[Buck Birdseed]

And of course while time and resources are spent on this kind of thing other types of crime prevention suffer. In Stockholm the police (in the name of "zero tolerance") have special detachment dealing with the huge societal menace of Illegal Posters Advertising Small-Scale Art Events, while (say) bicycle thefts aren't even given a second glance.

[Ben Kenobi]

No. The nurse would be required to either contact the child's parents and have them bring the medicine to the school or call paramedics.

Why have a school nurse?


As for homeschooling, preaching to the choir.

[oedo]

I believe that sometimes you have to break the law to do a good thing, and when caught you will have to pay. Opportunity cost and all...

next time, no one will save the girl´s, life because anyone who could help her fears a punishment and runs away.

another example: someone smells smoke in his neighbour´s appartment. he believes there´s a fire and rings at the door. no one opens. next calls the fire brigade.
later it turns out there was no fire and the man gets fined for calling the fire brigade.
if you really believe this is ok, better think twice, where this kind of ruling could lead to. next time, when there´s really a fire, the man would rather let his neighbours flat burn, because the laws want it so.

[Guynemer]

This is what our society has wrought. We're so obsessed with being "tough on crime" and "tough on drugs", that politicians announce "Zero Tolerance" and people give them standing ovations.

It's not only the school board and administators who aren't thinking. We put these people in power, and they instituted these policies because they are popular. By being "zero tolerance on drugs," you'll get a lot further in your career than the guy who isn't.

We get the government we deserve.




EDIT: grammar

[Caligastia]

Exactly. Sounding tough is more important than solving the problem.

[Guynemer]

We're not supposed to agree with each other, Cali.

Quick, post something obnoxious, before the world falls off its axis. (Though we're still in danger from a potential Cubs-BoSox WS...)

[Japher]

Yeah, and I'm not suppose to be disagreeing with Cali... What is this world coming to?

[Sarxis]

Wisdom has left this generation.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Why have a school nurse?


As for homeschooling, preaching to the choir.

When i was in the 4th grade i got two fingers caught in a wooden door at school. I sat in the nurses office for three hours bleeding before they decided it was time to call my mom. Most of what I remember from that day is my mom cussing the principle for not calling her sooner or getting me some medical attention. I had never knew my mom could say such words .

[Nubclear]

Zero common sense.

[tinyp3nis]

Originally posted by Japher


In order to a good deed the kid had to break a "law". He has to pay now. No one ever said one good deed gets another, it just deserves it.

I believe that sometimes you have to break the law to do a good thing, and when caught you will have to pay. Opportunity cost and all...

Please Note: I did say that the policy should be reevaluated because of this incident.

What end will it serve to have the kid take the punishment? Who will benefit? The society? I don't think so. The problem with any zero tolerance is generalizing. Are you guilty of this too? I know that in _some_ cases upholding stupid law and sacrificing someone would work for some greater end, but not in this case imo. I don't understand who or what could possibly benefit from this.

[Japher]

What end will it serve to have the kid take the punishment? Who will benefit? The society? I don't think so

Hopefully society will benefit, as now people will look at this case and reevaluate the stupid policy.

[MrFun]

There should be zero tolerance for Coke consumption in schools . . . . .