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  • #76
    Originally posted by finbar
    Everyone will suffer in the heat, just some more than others. The Australians are obviously used to living with heat, but obviously don't play in it. Our "rugby season" finished a few weeks ago. Our cricket season is under way. In fact, the Wallabies just spent a week training in tropical Darwin to acclimatise themselves.
    The conditions will be the same for everybody so I don't think this will really be a problem.

    I don't think the WRC is pivotal at all. Those questions are constantly being posed and answered. In this forum too. Go back and read some of Tamerlin's posts. You shouldn't have trouble finding them, just look for a plethora of s. Frankly, I think the old so-called division between the two styles broke down quite a few years ago. France have always played a mixture of the styles, even if their backline involvement wasn't as structured as the SH style. And England, over the last 5 years, have gradually developed a style that combines the two. Bottom line - IMHO, rugby will never turn into L*****, despite Tamerlin's tirade of s.


    On this point I can't agree with you and I really think our favorite game is facing a dire threat. IMO it is vital that a Northern Hemisphere team wins this World Cup if we don't want this game to become a Rugby L***** pudding played by 15 players, you know that I think this is almost already the case in the SH. IMO, the changes are vehicled by the referees encouraged to do so by the pundits investing large amounts of money in our beloved game. The problem is that a new victory by a SH team could accelerate the process when a victory by a NH team could slow down this decay or put an end to it.

    Another big problem is that this RWC will be helmed by the same referees that are encouraged to alter the game to suit the investors' needs.

    This is the reason why I really hope England (I have abandonned all hope as far as the French team is concerned) will kick all those heretics out of Australia.


    On a completely unrelated note, my urge to escape this sh*thole of a country has just increased with a judicial ruling here that Roquefort cheese cannot be imported from France. Our authorities require milk products to be pasteurised - heated to 72 degrees for no less than 15 seconds to destroy bacteria. Roquefort is heated only to 32 degrees. Despite the fact that no one has been known to have died from eating Roquefort anywhere in the world, it's not allowed into this country. Nor, in fact, into New Zealand. The only two countries with such stupid, archaic regulations.
    I would bet the USA are not far away from such kind of regulations...

    It's the same sort of medieval thinking that prevents us importing uncooked meats - prosciutto, pancetta, etc - from Italy!

    Where's my passport! Move over, Tamerlin, here I come!
    I am gladly offering you a place to stay (my appartment will be a bit overcrowded but this is a matter of duty) and the political refugee status.
    "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Tamerlin


      On this point I can't agree with you
      Mon Dieu! Quelle surprise!



      I deleted the rest of your rant in order not to waste precious ether!



      I would bet the USA are not far away from such kind of regulations...
      No. Last time I checked, they could import the real thing. Of course whether they appreciate that is a different matter! It is, of course, the home of that despicable orange-coloured cheese that tastes like the stuff they insert into cushions to make them springy!

      I am gladly offering you a place to stay (my appartment will be a bit overcrowded but this is a matter of duty) and the political refugee status.


      I'm still trying to work out how I can get over there in November or early December. I want to check out longer-term rental propositions with the overall aim of buying. Mrs finbar, unfortunately, will be working.
      " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
      "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by finbar
        Mon Dieu! Quelle surprise!


        I deleted the rest of your rant in order not to waste precious ether!


        Though you are leaving among barbarians I suppose that you have the same colloquialism in Australia:

        "Il n'y a que la vérité qui fâche!"



        No. Last time I checked, they could import the real thing. Of course whether they appreciate that is a different matter! It is, of course, the home of that despicable orange-coloured cheese that tastes like the stuff they insert into cushions to make them springy!
        They are also barbarians.

        I'm still trying to work out how I can get over there in November or early December. I want to check out longer-term rental propositions with the overall aim of buying. Mrs finbar, unfortunately, will be working.
        I understand, someone has to bring money at home.
        "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Tamerlin

          Though you are leaving among barbarians I suppose that you have the same colloquialism in Australia:

          "Il n'y a que la vérité qui fâche!"
          "The truth hurts" is the best we can manage.

          They are also barbarians.
          In the food stakes, I have to agree. I've eaten my way across the country a couple of times.

          I understand, someone has to bring money at home.
          Listen, prior to this holiday I'm having, I worked 7 days a week for 11 months!
          " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
          "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Tamerlin
            IMO it is vital that a Northern Hemisphere team wins this World Cup if we don't want this game to become a Rugby L***** pudding played by 15 players, you know that I think this is almost already the case in the SH.
            This is pretty much how I see the NH game. Their backs aren't able to keep running for the duration so they give it to their forwards, who generally butt heads for a while, occasionally getting somewhere, while the aforementioned backs take a breather. Then eventually the game restarts when their backs have regained some puff.
            That reminds me of the RL matches I used to watch before realising just how boring they were.


            This is the reason why I really hope England (I have abandonned all hope as far as the French team is concerned) will kick all those heretics out of Australia.
            Wouldn't it be ironic if those "heretics" ended up in France as referees after being kicked out of Australia?


            I am gladly offering you a place to stay (my appartment will be a bit overcrowded but this is a matter of duty) and the political refugee status.
            So finbar qualifies as a politcal refugee then (although he may agree with that for all I know)?

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            • #81
              Originally posted by ravagon


              This is pretty much how I see the NH game. Their backs aren't able to keep running for the duration so they give it to their forwards, who generally butt heads for a while, occasionally getting somewhere, while the aforementioned backs take a breather. Then eventually the game restarts when their backs have regained some puff.
              That reminds me of the RL matches I used to watch before realising just how boring they were.
              It's not Friday, but I'll forgive you.

              So finbar qualifies as a politcal refugee then (although he may agree with that for all I know)?
              Yes, absolutely, I will qualify as a political refugee. I shall also renounce my Australian citizenship just as soon as I possibly can.
              " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
              "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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              • #82
                Ending up at 19-all. How did Taine Randell play? I still think the ABs will miss his experience.
                12 all at 78 mins – and as boring as I suggested. They traded two late tries.

                Taine had a strong game – he made a huge hit on our hooker that stopped a sure try. I think you may be right about the ABs missing him.

                Jonno’s brother is named ‘Will’ and the world can relax – he is only about five years younger and never broke the international scene (when he looked close to so doing he had the bad luck to break his leg). He is also a back row player. He has been a great servant for Tigers – and he scowls a little less. You couldn’t mistake his heritage though.

                I’m rather hoping work will calm down over the next few weeks and allow me to return to my longer posting. I’m sure you are all hoping I’m wrong.
                It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Havak
                  You couldn’t mistake his heritage though.
                  So he's plug ugly, with the personality of a fire hydrant?

                  I’m rather hoping work will calm down over the next few weeks and allow me to return to my longer posting. I’m sure you are all hoping I’m wrong.
                  Just as long as you're too busy to post until about November 31st.
                  " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                  "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by ravagon
                    This is pretty much how I see the NH game. Their backs aren't able to keep running for the duration so they give it to their forwards, who generally butt heads for a while, occasionally getting somewhere, while the aforementioned backs take a breather. Then eventually the game restarts when their backs have regained some puff.
                    That reminds me of the RL matches I used to watch before realising just how boring they were.
                    Australians are real barbarians... [EDIT]and men of bad faith.[/EDIT]

                    Havak, if England does not win this RWC and does not show them what the game of Rugby is I will cross the channel myself to kick some b****.

                    Wouldn't it be ironic if those "heretics" ended up in France as referees after being kicked out of Australia?
                    France is a laic country so they would be allowed to practice their faith... as long as they are not trying to convert and that they are not exhibiting their religious symbol (the whistle).

                    So finbar qualifies as a politcal refugee then (although he may agree with that for all I know)?
                    Yes, it is my duty to help an educated man living among barbarians (even if he is sometimes laughing at some dubious humour generally posted on friday).
                    "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Havak
                      Taine had a strong game – he made a huge hit on our hooker that stopped a sure try. I think you may be right about the ABs missing him.
                      Just in the same way as John Mitchell has gambled on a running game (which has merit given the hard Aussie ground and the age of the No 1 team's forwards ), he has gambled on promise over experience.

                      Originally posted by finbar
                      Keith Wood at hooker, for starters, would eat Mealamu.
                      I don't know about that. Kevin has an energetic and robust approach that invariably sees him pop up all over the field. He is an accurate lineout thrower and he's bulked up a lot - he's gone from 98kg when he first played Super 12 in 2000 to 106kg. Keith Wood is slower and prone to injury. If he did manage to get near enough to Kevin to eat him he’d probably bruise his teeth trying.

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                      • #86
                        No sorry - Woods is in a totally different class. He's not slow either.

                        The clash of styles is going to be the most remarkable thing - lets face it your forwards don't impress us much and I suspect our backs don't impress you at all.

                        About the only thing that can go wrong now is someone knocking one of us out before we could meet.

                        I will be making sure that I get to post during the tournament (sorry Finbar).

                        And Tamerlin - we will do our very best to uphold the homour of the NH. I am rather hoping France will do likewise despite prevailing form. An England-France clash in the SF would bring this thread alive radically (particularly if the unfancied Wallabies were knocking NZ out at the same time - wishful thinking heading their way from me for that one).
                        It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Havak
                          And Tamerlin - we will do our very best to uphold the homour of the NH. I am rather hoping France will do likewise despite prevailing form. An England-France clash in the SF would bring this thread alive radically...
                          At last we will talk about Rugby...

                          ... (particularly if the unfancied Wallabies were knocking NZ out at the same time - wishful thinking heading their way from me for that one).
                          Now that sounds like science fiction.
                          "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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                          • #88
                            No sorry - Woods is in a totally different class. He's not slow either.
                            Well I'm not sure how slow he is in the brain but I didn't say he was slow on the field. Just slower than Mealamu. And do you care to substantiate your remark about Woods being in a totally different class?

                            But yes, the clash of the styles to come is certainly a salivating prospect! I just hope the Boks don’t take out Wilko before we have the chance to beat you at full strength.

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                            • #89
                              They won't - don't worry. And a chance is all you will get.

                              How much should I elaborate? Woods is for me the best hooker still playing the game.

                              I consider him to still be better than Thompson for example - would you rate this lad you named better than Thompson?

                              *edit* If it helps to clarify Keith is almost single handedly responsible for Irelands win over England in 2001 - his work rate and presence around the park that day beat anything I've seen from a hooker since Pit Bull packed in in the mid nineties. He missed the next two Anglo-Irish games both of which were crushing defeats for the Green - and I am sure his lack of presence affected that hugely (as indeed big J missing the 2001 game no doubt hampered us).

                              On which note Finbar he is currently fit and should be present for the big RWC game with them - I don't expect the abject surrender up front they made to you in June.
                              Last edited by Havak; September 23, 2003, 10:50.
                              It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by finbar
                                No. Last time I checked, they could import the real thing. Of course whether they appreciate that is a different matter!
                                Well I can tell you that I certainly appreciate it.

                                Mmmm...prosciutto...I think I'll have Italian for lunch today. Little Italy is just down the road...

                                ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                                ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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