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**lord of the mark** · September 3, 2003, 16:04

re creativiy and depression - this is a more significant question wrt to medicating for dysthymia/minor depression, etc. I doubt many people produce much while in a major depression.

**Solly** · September 3, 2003, 16:06

True...but this whole having 25% of our population on legally recognised pills to make them cheerier, and 25% others on illegal pills to have them a good time on Fris and Sats is a very sorry state. We are storing up trouble for the future and some of the problems are already coming through now.

**lord of the mark** · September 3, 2003, 16:06

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Actually, I think I need to go back on the real meds. I really can't stand the thought of leaving home these days. I'm actually disappointed when my contract gets renewed, because that means I have to keep leaving my safe place.

yup , that would sound like depression even in someone without a prior history. Time to at least check in with a professional.

**chequita guevara** · September 3, 2003, 16:06

Actually, I'm rather anti-therapy. I don't like the idea of a professional friend. I can't bring myself to trust the person who is acting all concerned and **** only cuz I'm paying them.

Theoretically, therapy is a good thing, but unfortunately, it is done by fallable humans who bring all sorts of misconceptions of their own with them.

**lord of the mark** · September 3, 2003, 16:07

Originally posted by Park Avenue
True...but this whole having 25% of our population on legally recognised pills to make them cheerier,

source please?

as for illegal pills, thats irrelevant.

**chequita guevara** · September 3, 2003, 16:08

He's confusing the fact that as many as 25% of the population may be suffering from depression with the idea that we're all on pills.

**st_swithin** · September 3, 2003, 16:09

Originally posted by Ecthelion
People keep telling me I'm an evil, bad person. I always knew it's bull****.

Now I've read about you guys and finally I can be certain I've met the true evil.

You guys are the worst outcome of society, not me. I'm not to blame for my fate, you are.

Uh, hi.

**Provost Harrison** · September 3, 2003, 16:10

Alcohol is a legal drug Bodds, in fact one I abhor more as I see more. It causes so much destruction and violence and other social problems yet for some reason you don't seem to have anything against this drug which, like any other drug, if abused as I know you do can have serious effects...you must see these things with parity...

**Solly** · September 3, 2003, 16:10

Just how many ****ed up people do we have in this world due to artificialness

**Solly** · September 3, 2003, 16:11

Alcohol is a legal drug Bodds, in fact one I abhor more as I see more. It causes so much destruction and violence and other social problems yet for some reason you don't seem to have anything against this drug which, like any other drug, if abused as I know you do can have serious effects...you must see these things with parity...

The country isn't paying for you to get pissed.

**lord of the mark** · September 3, 2003, 16:12

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Actually, I'm rather anti-therapy. I don't like the idea of a professional friend. I can't bring myself to trust the person who is acting all concerned and **** only cuz I'm paying them.

Theoretically, therapy is a good thing, but unfortunately, it is done by fallable humans who bring all sorts of misconceptions of their own with them.

A therapist ideally should be more than a pro friend. They should contribute real solutions, that a friend might not think of. and they should be objective in a way its hard for a friend to be. and sometimes it should be possible to admit things to them that would be hard to admit to a friend. Its nice to get legal advice from a friend, but even better to get it from a lawyer. Its nice to get financial advice from a friend - but sometimes better from an accountant. and its great to get advice on thoughts, feelings, and life steps from a friend - but sometimes better from a professional.

But they do bring misconceptions - IMO it takes months to "break in" a therapist, and some cant be broken in at all.

and nothing sucks more than when youve found a good therapist, who you work well with, and then they leave for personal/career reasons

**chequita guevara** · September 3, 2003, 16:12

Rich, if I ever get to the UK and there's a Poly meet, don't invite Stewie.

**lord of the mark** · September 3, 2003, 16:13

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
He's confusing the fact that as many as 25% of the population may be suffering from depression with the idea that we're all on pills.

i thought that number was lifetime, not 25% at any one time. Of course lots of people in recovery stay on meds for some time.

**Solly** · September 3, 2003, 16:13

It seems it's all the left wingers who want to drug themselves up to the eyeballs just to cope with life as they see it.

**chequita guevara** · September 3, 2003, 16:16

Originally posted by Park Avenue
It seems it's all the left wingers who want to drug themselves up to the eyeballs just to cope with life as they see it.

That's because right wingers think pain is normal, and they spend their lives trying to inflict as much of it as possible.

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