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  • And like the thread title says: 'The problem with Socialism'. Now, if that's not a hint that I'll be doign some whining, then I don't know what is. I have my rights to critizise the system as you have the rights to defend it.
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    • I agree with the fact that unemployment benefits are too high. That money could've been used in a better way.
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      • I also have the right to hate you for that.
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        • Pekka, 100% employment is not realistic. It's not evengood to the economy. There will always be people not fit for working, people who cant work for some reason. For them, the benefits are not too high.
          Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

          - Paul Valery

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          • Azazel, sure you do have the right to hate me for a reason you come up with, but at least we agree with something .

            The biggest problem is the lack of money. Now, socials and other lefties think we can still work this wihtin our system, where as I don't believe it can. And there are many choices and models we could go for, not necessarily far from what we have now. I was never talking about extreme capitalism, but I guess most people thought that from the beginning.
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            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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            • laurentius, sure 100% is not possible. After all we don't want to turn communist . And I don't say that unfortunate people who simply can not work because of disabilities etc are making too much money. They can hardly live with their crappy checks because their living can be more expensive than people who don't have those disabilities. I never claimed that we should cut off these people, I clearly stated that unfortunate people (For example people with disabilities) needs to have money coming in. In fact, I think they're getting too little.
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              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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              • Originally posted by Kramerman
                i think im just a hard-ass liberal
                No such animal. Liberals have a congenital defect which prevents them from having a spine. One must be either progressive or conservative to have a spine and thus be a hard ass.
                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                • maybe I should've used the word "resent".
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                  • Well, you can resent me if you want. I don't resent you, and I find it sad that you have to resent me because we disagree with some issues.
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                    • I dont see any solution from you Pekka. First off you say 100% employment would solve some problems, then you say that you dont want that, cos you are afraid of commies.
                      Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

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                      • laurentieus, no you got me wrong. 100% employment can be maybe reached in communist model, I don't know but I think that's the closest one to have it that high.
                        I said, that our systems needs everyone working so it works like it's supposed to work, but since we can't have everyone working, the system can't work either.
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                        "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                        THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                        "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                        • hmmm, so your trying to say that...?
                          Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                          - Paul Valery

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                          • That the system is too expensive to support itself.
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                            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                            • I don't hate you and don't resent you. I just think what you've said is VERY VERY wrong!

                              hope this clears things up. *sigh*
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                              • Are you saying that our system is communistic and that some other kind of system where not so many people would have to work is better?
                                Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                                - Paul Valery

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