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Originally posted by Pekka
again, what is your point? If you have nothing to say about the subject of this thread, then simply get out.
again, what is your point? If you have nothing to say about the subject of this thread, then simply get out.
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you should make him leave
"I bet Ikarus eats his own spunk..."
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Yup, try.Originally posted by Kramerman
you should make him leave
“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Originally posted by HershOstropoler
Yup, try.
pekka would kick your ass
"I bet Ikarus eats his own spunk..."
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Kramerman - Creator and Author of The Epic Tale of Navalon in the Civ III Stories ForumComment
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Tough challange over a network.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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I stand by my Indian heritage and think that Socialist Soup with a *TON* of capitalist spices is best.Originally posted by Kramerman
i stand by my belief that a capitalist soup with some socialist spice is the best, rather than the socialist soup with capitalist spice
But lately my thinking has changed to a progressive switch between Socialism Soup to Capitalism Soup and back again. Over and over. Because capitalism does make a country richer, but those whom are at the bottom will only continue to fall.
Socialism eats itself very slowly. Capitalism restores what Socialism ate.Comment
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in a society that does everything it can to be upwardly mobile, and gives everyone at birth an equal chance (hah hah) to succeed, then those at the top belong at hte top more or less and those at the bottom belong there more or less, so the universe is equalizedOriginally posted by Comrade Tassadar
I stand by my Indian heritage and think that Socialist Soup with a *TON* of capitalist spices is best.
But lately my thinking has changed to a progressive switch between Socialism Soup to Capitalism Soup and back again. Over and over. Because capitalism does make a country richer, but those whom are at the bottom will only continue to fall.
Socialism eats itself very slowly. Capitalism restores what Socialism ate."I bet Ikarus eats his own spunk..."
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Kramerman - Creator and Author of The Epic Tale of Navalon in the Civ III Stories ForumComment
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Whine, whine, whine. That's about all the right wing nuts like Pekka do in this country these days, apart from cutting welfare, trying to lower minimum wage, cut taxes from the rich and pursuit their own good over others. Oh yeah, and those same right wing whackos are the ones responsible for the short term profit expectations in companies, resulting in needless job cuts. Yeah you are taking all the benefits of our welfare system, but don't want to contribute. You know having all the services we have for free -or almost free- results in high taxes.
Finland is socialist? Gimme a break, it looks like you don't even know what sosialism is. Having Social Democratic Party in the government and having Social Security does not make us socialists.
Why don't you stop your delusional whining and move to east europe where anything is possible and with all the money einstein like you would make and you could buy everything without having to pay much taxes. What a paradise! My advice to you is though..Dont believe the Hype!Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.
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i hear pimping is rather lucrative in eastern europe in these times (and all times)"I bet Ikarus eats his own spunk..."
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Kramerman - Creator and Author of The Epic Tale of Navalon in the Civ III Stories ForumComment
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Originally posted by laurentius
Whine, whine, whine. That's about all the right wing nuts like Pekka do in this country these days, apart from cutting welfare, trying to lower minimum wage, cut taxes from the rich and pursuit their own good over others. Oh yeah, and those same right wing whackos are the ones responsible for the short term profit expectations in companies, resulting in needless job cuts. Yeah you are taking all the benefits of our welfare system, but don't want to contribute. You know having all the services we have for free -or almost free- results in high taxes.
I think thats kind of the point. ppl are taking all the benefits of the welfare state. but there aren't enuff ppl to bear the load.
u suggest he stop his whining and choke down his taxes?Comment
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"choke down in taxes" is proverb used by the right wing. I suggest him some reality tripping instead of believing all the populists crap hes being brainwashed with.Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.
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ur fundamental problem remains. high levels of taxation and a large socialist base stagnate an economy. regardless of how much u dislike his ideaology.Originally posted by laurentius
"choke down in taxes" is proverb used by the right wing. I suggest him some reality tripping instead of believing all the populists crap hes being brainwashed with.Comment
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High levels of taxation don't necessarily stagnate an economy. The more important questions are how the two areas that tax revenue goes to are structured.
- As income of the private sector; depends on the redistributive effect
- As government consumption; depends on the effeciency of procuring those goods and services“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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how will u remain internationally competitive? how will local companies taxed to the bone compete w/ hong kong? will u just tarriff the crap outta the rest of the world? u end up paranoid about losing jobs abroad so u shut off thinking that if u just make stuff for each other that'll work good enuff. but then u no longer have the economic base to keep pace w/ the rest of the planet technologically.Originally posted by HershOstropoler
High levels of taxation don't necessarily stagnate an economy. The more important questions are how the two areas that tax revenue goes to are structured.
- As income of the private sector; depends on the redistributive effect
- As government consumption; depends on the effeciency of procuring those goods and servicesComment
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Yavoon, we do have relatively high taxes, not highest in europe though. And I do dislike his ideology. But I don't understand your description of our economy as "large socialist base stagnating an economy" Look, we don't have any socialist bases here. We don't have a stagnate economy. Instead we are the second most competitive and growth potential economy in the world.
Finland in fact has very cheap labour considerign it's high educational level. The big companies whine because it's their job to be greedy and try to get better deals all the time. It's just normal to lobby your intrests and threaten the government of moving out of the country. Check the facts about finnish economy before talking about it.
Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.
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yah I dont know jack about finland. I was just going on what ppl say. dont all scandinavian countries have very high tax rates?Originally posted by laurentius
Well, we do have relatively high taxes, not highest in europe though. And I do dislike his ideology. But I don't understand your description of our economy as "large socialist base stagnating an economy" Look, we don't have any socialist bases here. We don't have a stagnate economy. Instead we are the second most competitive and growth potential economy in the world. Finland in fact has very cheap labour considerign it's high educational level. The big companies whine because it's their job to be greedy and try to get better deals all the time. It's just normal to lobby your intrests and threaten the government of moving out of the country. Check the facts about finnish economy before talkingComment
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