Indisputable Abortion FACTS:

[chequita guevara]

A severely handicapped person still has one thing a fetus doesn't, self-awareness.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Zylka
I see. And when another human being fails to display this as well [ie.) the severely handicapped/ mentally retarded] - we lance them because society and/or the mother have no need for them?

I hope this wasn't directed at me.

[Mordoch]

Originally posted by Zylka
Then reply to the post above, budy. Good luck

Thats easy, besides point one, the priciple that once these rights are gained they can't be removed can be invoked.

[Zylka]

Che, why does a fetus not have self awareness? If it is instinctively sucking at it's thumb and making NEURO TRANSMISSION commanded movements - it for some reason doesn't use the same resource for awareness??? Or is it just "magic" that it kicks and winces - until a certain arbitrary time?

[Zylka]

Originally posted by Mordoch

Thats easy, besides point one, the priciple that once these rights are gained they can't be removed can be invoked.

Oh, so the right is arbitrarily given the second a fetus leaves the womb, eh? That's a very concrete right you're denying of millions. Fair guy!

[ixnay]

PETA: Eating meat is like the holocaust
Some anti-abortionists: Abortion is like the holocaust

so the only logical conclusion from this is that

Abortion is like eating meat. Mmmmm, tasty.

Zylka: This week's goldmine is just writing script excerpts for Star Wars ep. III. Nothing has been announced for next Phriday. However, there will likely be a mini-tournament this next week, this would be to qualify to make it onto the SA team for the upcoming SA vs. Worth1000 vs. Fark vs. some mystery team photoshop contest.

[Zylka]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
self-awareness.

-BRAIN WAVES HAVE BEEN RECORDED AT 40 DAYS

[Zylka]

Originally posted by ixnay

Zylka: This week's goldmine is just writing script excerpts for Star Wars ep. III. Nothing has been announced for next Phriday. However, there will likely be a mini-tournament this next week, this would be to qualify to make it onto the SA team for the upcoming SA vs. Worth1000 vs. Fark vs. some mystery team photoshop contest.

Nice. Keep me updated, ok? My credit card is in the red zone

[Geronimo]

Zylka do you also find abhorent those abortions at the preimplantation stage (such as those induced by RU 486) where the embryo doesnt yet display any of the traits you list for the much later 11th week of gestation fetus?

[Zylka]

Hello Geronimo,

Thank you for your question. In all honesty... when I was a younger lad at med school, I indeed supported the use of RU 486 for early abortion at most, as well as a wonderful intoxicant when crushed and mixed in with a shot of Jack Daniel's

Now, although the initial evidence supports lack of fetal awareness at the preliminary stages and I am tempted to continue in support, I must say that I can not be sure and have the answers of life in regards to post conception. None of us do, and when such a dilemma arises - you do NOT commit to potential murder in change. To think otherwise is unfounded arrogance, devoid of any real answer but convincing of self knowledge on completely arbitrary and evasive terms.

Hope that helps,
-Doc

[DeathByTheSword]

i personnelly believe in abortion like stated in the law. and i do not believe that babies become human until they get self aware. and with self aware I do not mean producing brain waves...every animal does that. but i mean seeing you as a person with memories. If you think back to your childhood...you first and oldest memory is the moment you start living. (i am not saying you dont have the same right before that time) but Before that time...you do not actively remember and live.

[Zylka]

DBS,

You consider yourself a humble man, I can tell. Well perhaps you would gain a little more insight by smoking 50mg of 5-MeO-DMT from a medicinal glass pipe.

I bid you good luck on your journey into "self awareness"

-Doc

[DeathByTheSword]

i have injected my self with DMT ones....much more fun

i cant always take anti-abortionist seriously because most start about religous ideas and believe and i am an die hard athiest.
and besides that besides the child that is very importent the mother that wants the abortions needs to be taken in a count to... i am not judging or attackin someone here....just rambling my thoughs.

with this i must also say not myself or someone i know has dealt with such problems...

[Zylka]

How convenient it is that they kill the baby while still in the womb, before evacuating. Anyone know why this is?

...because if they did it the other way around, the "undeveloped" child would STILL kick and move, struggle to breathe, and weakly protest as the instrument began to crush it's head! Do these sound like the actions of a being that is not yet "self aware"???

That's right, do the dirty work quickly and inside - so the fetus hasn't a chance to display the horror to other human beings as witness. I guess the doctors cope with their conscience a lot easier this way

Anyone care to debate this morbid treat? You can't - because it's reality!

[Zylka]

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
i have injected my self with DMT ones....much more fun

Nice! I am dying to get my hands on some... did you see any strange beings or entities during your experience?

with this i must also say not myself or someone i know has dealt with such problems...

I have - someone I love. The first person outside of family I loved. Yet this did not taint my views of it, because if it did I would be pro abortion!