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  • #76
    and what's so bad about "acting on them", skywalker?
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #77
      Nothing. Did I say it was? I have no problem with gay people (unless they start stalking me or something ).

      I didn't realize this was a good/bad debate. I'm just answering the question in the thread title.

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      • #78
        ah, my apologies... judging from your usual political leanings, I assumed you thought homosexuals were evil sinners or something.
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #79
          Huh? In case you hadn't noticed from the creationist debates, I'm also a devout atheist.

          Don't worry, it's all good

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          • #80
            Huh? In case you hadn't noticed from the creationist debates, I'm also a devout atheist.
            to you...
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #81
              Soft n liberal enough?

              You're only soft n liberal until somebody disagrees with you, when you change to being ill-mannered and Intolerant
              Up The Millers

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              • #82
                While acting on the impulse may be a choice, it's not much of one. You can either act on it, or be miserable. Some choice...
                "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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                • #83
                  Hi

                  Russian wisdom says, that even if you cant exit you can exit via entrance.

                  Have a nice gay
                  money sqrt evil;
                  My literacy level are appalling.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Fez
                    Homosexuality isn't a choice. It is that clear cut.
                    Hey BAMBAM, do you happen to have Pebbles phone number?
                    He's got the Midas touch.
                    But he touched it too much!
                    Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
                      How any straight person could consider themselves qualified to answer this question is beyond me. What the **** would we know about it?

                      There are a lot of intelligent gay people who visit this forum. If they say that their sexuality is not a matter of choice then how on earth could you argue with them?
                      Come on FP, you can do better than this. A lot of gays argue that they are attracted to people of the same gender just as hetrosexuals are attracted to members of the opposite sex. To take your point to its logical conclusion, how the hell would they know?

                      But I tend to agree with them, that the nature of attraction is similar if not identical in gays and straights. All the evidence that I have seen / heard seems to support this.

                      When I was young I was only attracted to athletic women / girls with dark hair. Over the years other sorts of women were attracted to me and approached me. In some cases I decided to go ahead and date them, even though they were not the stuff of my infantile ideal. Often things worked out well, and my ideal expanded to include blondes, redheads etc. These days I am much more open to persuasion as I have found that a good relationship has virtually nothing to do with an initial burst of attraction on my part, but deeper personality traits that one cannot discover without a willingness to take some risks and get to know people.

                      I made a choice to expand my horizons at each stage. Thankfully I was raised without the burden of a social construct that decided for me that brunettes were the be all and end all, and anything else was simply some sort of unhealthy anomoly. These issues are hard enough to deal with as it is.
                      He's got the Midas touch.
                      But he touched it too much!
                      Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                      • #86
                        "Choice" is a loaded term since it implies a conscious decision. Whether or not we have genetic pre-dispositions to homosexuality, I believe there are significant environmental factors that affect human sexuality. How else can you explain things like S&M, Dom&Sub and the whole variety of fetishes out there? Surely no one is born to be a toe sucker but it's not exactly a choice either.

                        As others have pointed out, concepts of beauty aren't universal across socieities so why should we expect homo/hetero behavior to be so rigidly ingrained in our genes?

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                        • #87
                          MrFun nailed the answer, from my point of view.
                          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                          • #88
                            not being gay, i wouldn't know.
                            B♭3

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                            • #89
                              It's rumored you have a brain though.
                              I'm not Gay, but I can see the validity of his statement.
                              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                              • #90
                                what it boils down to is this. does someone else being gay really make that much of a difference to a person? i don't give a flying fcuk, so i don't care if it's a choice or not, i don't care if they're gay or not, and i don't care if they are flaming or not.

                                if they want to be friends with me, that's fine, and that's how i'll respond to them. if they want to be jerks, them that's how i'll respond. their sexuality has no bearing on how i initially treat them, nor does it have any bearing on how i see them as a person.

                                to me, it's no different from religion, ethnicity, social background, or gender: it's who they are, and unless it directly affects you, i.e., you're being hit on or some such, i don't understand why you'd give a damn.
                                B♭3

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