Oh, that wacky Pat Robertson!

[Drake Tungsten]

Pretty classless, Boris.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Pretty classless, Boris.

Anyone who has perpetrated the amount of hatred, intolerance and misery that Robertson has done is deserving. His defense of Taylor is just one of the long list of inexcusable stances he has taken. I know you probably don't care about such things, but I've not seen much moral substance from you in any regard, so not surprised!

Roberston is a hate factory, and the world will be a better place when he's gone, period.

[Drake Tungsten]

I seem to remember you taking Sava to task for celebrating the death of Strom Thurmond, a man who perpetuated just as much hatred and intolerance in his day as Pat Robertson. Why did you consider what Sava did classless, while your behavior is perfectly fine? I guess you only consider a person worthy of death if they offend you and your minority group.

[GePap]

many years ago Thurmond renounced his views..that was a big part of the discussion. Pat Robertson never has. And he is insulting to more people than just gays. i find him noxious: anyone who claims to be a morally upstanding citizen and then publicly backs a murdeous thug like Charles Taylor out of religious intollerance is not a very worthwhile man.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I seem to remember you taking Sava to task for celebrating the death of Strom Thurmond, a man who perpetuated just as much hatred and intolerance in his day as Pat Robertson. Why did you consider what Sava did classless, while your behavior is perfectly fine? I guess you only consider a person worthy of death if they offend you and your minority group.

OOOH look I can use THUMBS too!

Gee, the difference is that first, the Thurmond thread was done because the man REALLY died, and despite his faults, it's hard to quibble with his being an influentual national figure. You'll note it was the active celebrating of Thurmond's death that I didn't care for.

You'll also note how others in this thread have gone so far as to wish Robertson goes to HELL. I didn't even do that (of course, I don't believe in Hell, but still). Someone said he should be struck by lightning. So go harp on them, 'cuz I can see through your schtick pretty easily.

And you'll note my disgust with Robertson didn't mention anything about my particular "minority group," and I'd also draw your attention to Thurmond's attitudes to said group, which aren't too kind, either. But since that seems to be what YOU are focused on, I just gotta wonder why you bring it up? Hetero rage?

[connorkimbro]

Although i think he's a total idiot, i certainly don't wish the man any physical harm.

He's always praying for this or that to happen though. Silly little man. It's kind of amusing, in a way.

[Drake Tungsten]

many years ago Thurmond renounced his views..that was a big part of the discussion. Pat Robertson never has.

So it's alright to wish death on people until they renounce their offensive views? I guess I didn't know that. Carry on then, by all means.

Although i think he's a total idiot, i certainly don't wish the man any physical harm.

Seems like a more sensible and classy viewpoint to me and it's one that I share.

[CorpusScorpius]

A fanatic from any background can be dangerous. Wether its Good Ole Pat or Osama

[Boris Godunov]

I'd also point out that Robertson has hoped for the deaths of others in his own way, proclaiming gleefully that such-and-such people would be subjected to God's wrath (I believe he mentioned meteors?) for their evil ways. I've no doubt he be thrilled of Kennedy or O'Connor or Ginsberg croaked tomorrow, and would consider it God's answer to his prayers. Yeah, let me cry over him some. *sob*

[Drake Tungsten]

I'd also point out that Robertson has hoped for the deaths of others in his own way

So because Roberson does it, it suddenly becomes ok? Jesus, you must not hate the man that much if you're willing to take a page out of his own horribly offensive playbook.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
So it's alright to wish death on people until they renounce their offensive views? I guess I didn't know that. Carry on then, by all means.

Oh bo ho ho.. I remmber all those times you told people off for wanting Saddam Hussein dead..I mean the gaul of those people to which anyone harm.....



Would I kill Pat Robertson? No. BUt I won;t feel the slightest twitch of sympathy when he does finally leave this plane of existence.

Unless you enforce a 100% no one can hope for anyone eses death policy, I can only guess you don;t find him so noxious.

[PLATO]

Have to agree with Boris and GePap here. Robertson is way outa line. He does not even represent the religious conservatives in the least. The very religion he spouts his intolerence about is actually based on the concept of tolerence, choice, and understanding. none of which he has.

[Drake Tungsten]

I remmber all those times you told people off for wanting Saddam Hussein dead..I mean the gaul of those people to which anyone harm.....

I don't really care if anyone says that they wish someone would die, or that they're happy that someone died. It's none of my business and there are surely folks that I would like to see dead. Personally, I didn't feel any sympathy for Thurmond and I won't feel any for Roberston when he goes.

What bothers me, however, is when folks like Boris act all high and mighty one minute, denouncing Sava with plenty of righteous indignation, and then turn around and wish death on someone they don't like in another thread. Judge not, lest ye be judged.

[Giancarlo]

That little twit... Pat should know that his buddy, Charles Taylor is wanted on war crimes.

"has opened the door to homosexual marriage, bigamy, legalized prostitution and even incest."

Homosexuality does not equal bigamy, prostitution or incest. Gay people should be treated as straights are. I don't see why it is so hard for Pat to understand this.

I'd personally liked to see all of these religious nutcases croak. Look at them.. they don't even represent a miniscule minority anymore.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

I'd also point out that Robertson has hoped for the deaths of others in his own way

So because Roberson does it, it suddenly becomes ok? Jesus, you must not hate the man that much if you're willing to take a page out of his own horribly offensive playbook.

Yeah, I'm the same as Robertson, because I'd rather he died than Mr. Rogers. You don't do comparisons very well, do you?

Robertson preaches hatred towards entire groups of people and incites religious intolerance and bigotry. He also uses a nationwide bully pulpit to do it. Gee, wee bit of a difference there?

Hey, here's some other choice quotes from your buddy Robertson:

"You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense, I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be nice to them."
--The 700 Club, January 14, 1991

"Individual Christians are the only ones really---and Jewish people, those who trust God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob--are the only ones that are qualified to have the reign, because hopefully, they will be governed by God and submit to Him."
--Defending his stance that only Christians and Jews are fit to hold public office, The 700 Club, January 11, 1985

"It is interesting, that termites don't build things, and the great builders of our nation almost to a man have been Christians, because Christians have the desire to build something. He is motivated by love of man and God, so he builds. The people who have come into [our] institutions are primarily termites. They are into destroying institutions that have been built by Christians, whether it is universities, governments, our own traditions, that we have.... The termites are in charge now, and that is not the way it ought to be, and the time has arrived for a godly fumigation."
--New York Magazine, August 18, 1986

[Gee, wouldn't fumigating termites be killing them?]

"[Homosexuals] want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers."
--The 700 Club, January 18, 1995

"If the widespread practice of homosexuality will bring about the destruction of your nation, if it will bring about terrorist bombs, if it'll bring about earthquakes, tornadoes and possibly a meteor, it isn't necessarily something we ought to open our arms to."
--The 700 Club, June 8, 1998

"Many of those people involved with Adolf Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals - the two things seem to go together."
--The 700 Club, January 21, 1993

"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."
--The 700 Club, January 8, 1992

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."
--Fundraising letter, 1992

"The wars of extermination have given a lot of people trouble unless they know what was going on. The people in the land of Palestine were very wicked. They were given over to idolatry; they sacrificed their children; they had all kinds of abominable sex practices; they were having sex, apparently, with animals; they were having sex men with men, and women with women; they were committing adultery, fornication; they were worshipping idols, offering their children up; and they were forsaking God.
"God told the Israelites to kill them all -- men, women and children, to destroy them. And that seems to be a terrible thing to do. Is it? Or isn't it?"
"Well, let us assume there were 2,000 of them, or 10,000 of them living in the land, or whatever number there was of them. I don't have the exact number. Pick a number. God said, 'Kill them all.'
"Well, that would seem hard, wouldn't it? That would be 10,000 people who would probably go to Hell. But, if they stayed and reproduced, in 30 or 40 or 50 or 60 or 100 more years, they could conceivably be -- 10,000 would go to a 100,000 -- 100,000 could conceivably go to a million. And then, there would be a million people who would have to spend eternity in Hell! And it's far more merciful to take away a few than to see in the future a 100 years down the road, and say, 'Well, I have to take away a million people that would forever be apart from God, ' because the abomination was there like a contagion. God saw that there was no cure for it. It wasn't going to change; their hearts weren't going to change; and all they would do is cause trouble for the Israelites, and pull the Israelites away from God, and prevent the truth of God from reaching the Earth."
"So, God, in love, took away a small number that he might not have to take away a large number."
--The 700 Club, May 6, 1985

What do we learn from all this?

-Non-Baptist Christians follow the spirit of Satan.
-Only Christians and Jews should be allowed to hold office, despite the Constitution.
-Anyone who opposes him is a termite in need of fumigating
-Gays are Nazi Satanists who will come into churches and throw around AIDS-infected blood, so we hope God sends a meteor to crush them.
-Any woman who doesn't take a subserviant role to her husband is a lesbian communist witch child-killer
-It is perfectly fine to kill thousands of innocent women and children, because they might give birth to future generations of national enemies. Mind you, this same man opposes abortion.

So, Robertson uses his renown to propogate such hate. All I say is that I think the world will be better off when he's gone. Yeah, that's comparable.

Oh Drake, if you weren't so absurd, I'd think you were seriously deranged.