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Another victory for the ZOG: doctored documents "prove" Liberty attack to be an error
Originally posted by Azazel
I've heard that they had an american flag on board. but after the first attack, it's very possible that it wasn't visible.
After the first attack, they replaced the smaller flag with a much larger flag that simply could not have been missed.
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Originally posted by Azazel
stop flooding, Panag. noone's going to read this.
I think that's his intention.
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Originally posted by Azazel
stop flooding, Panag. noone's going to read this.
hi ,
they should , ........
"helicopter" , .........
facts are what count , the above are the facts up to a certain level , ....... sorry , no link on that , so it had to be cut in order to be posted , ......
Here's a question for anyone that cares to answer: Why was it necessary to attack a nonthreatening ship on the high seas (assuming that we agree that the Israelis mistook the Liberty for the horse carrier El Quseir) before suface ships arrived to confirm the id?
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1 ) the americans believed they where under attack by egyptian torpedo boats
Not according to the sailors
2 ) the Israeli's tought it was an egyptian ship
Only if they were completely incompetent, since the American ship was much larger and looked nothing like the ship the Israelis claimed they though they were attacking. On top of that, the sophisticated electronics equipment and large American flag should have been clues that it was not an Egyptian horse carrier.
3 ) the egyptians had just shelled the shores
Irrelevent
4 ) the liberty was warned,
No it wasn't.
...... wtf was it doing in a warzone,
It was in international waters
why did med fleet command not send protection , ......
They did. A wave of fighters was sent to defend the Liberty until Johnson learned that it was the Israeli's attacking. Since he didn't want to be in the position of shooting down Israel planes (he should have done it anyway), he recalled the fighters).
5 ) why did they not answer to leave the waters and identify themselfs , ......
The were in international waters, they were identified by an American flag, and the communications systems were taken out. The last part is rather curious, since the ELF ship had lots of communications systems, which an Egyptian horse carrier wouldn't have, and yet the Israeli's knew just where to hit the Liberty to silence her.
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read the facts from the US investigation , .........
have a nice day
I have. I've also read the depositions of the sailors on board the Liberty. I'll take their word over yours every day of the week.
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Here's a question for anyone that cares to answer: Why was it necessary to attack a nonthreatening ship on the high seas (assuming that we agree that the Israelis mistook the Liberty for the horse carrier El Quseir) before suface ships arrived to confirm the id?
hi ,
read the above , ........
the shores where just shelled , the liberty and six fleet had confirmed they where no longer in the area , ......
recon was launched , they saw a ship near grid so and so , .... they believed it was the egyptian cruiser , torpedo boats where launched , on the way they had some other encounters also , .....
they never came to close , jets where called , jets attacked , no flag to be seen , jets attack again , pilots see funny things , they wait , one goes down and sees they are puling a flag up , pilots wait , pilots see flag , ....... thats the whole story in a nut , ........
why did the six med fleet provide any protection , why did they launched twice fighters , yet they never flew as far as the liberty , ......
Originally posted by DinoDoc
Here's a question for anyone that cares to answer: Why was it necessary to attack a nonthreatening ship on the high seas (assuming that we agree that the Israelis mistook the Liberty for the horse carrier El Quseir) before suface ships arrived to confirm the id?
They Originally believed that it was an Egyptian Warship that had been shelling the coast, IIRC.
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Originally posted by panag
recon was launched , they saw a ship near grid so and so , .... they believed it was the egyptian cruiser ,
Are sophisticated electronic equipment and US flags common among Egyptian horse carriers?
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara It was in international waters
It wan't where it was supposed to be. It was supposed to be couple of hundreds of miles away. At least, that's what the Israelis had been told.
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When conservatives, liberals, and radicals unite (including people who support Israel) on an issue, then it's pretty clear that the issue has merit.
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che - so they say, and so it may have happenned and something may have prevented the israelis from seeing that. you can not know what could or could not have been missed in mid combat, when you think you're attacking an enemy.
proof of that is the numerous friendly fire incidents in american army campaigns.
you'd be surprised at how many accidents and stupid errors happen in the military.
but the fact that even american intelligence supports the notion it was an accident, shouldn't disturb you
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