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  • Another victory for the ZOG: doctored documents "prove" Liberty attack to be an error



    U.S. agency confirms sinking of USS Liberty was accident

    By Nathan Guttman, Haaretz Correspondent



    WASHINGTON - New documents released this week by
    America's National Security Agency support
    Israel's version of a long-festering controversy
    between the two countries: Israel's sinking of an
    American spy ship, the USS Liberty, off the coast
    of Gaza during the 1967 Six-Day War.




    Israel has always said it had no
    idea the ship was American, but
    conspiracy theorists and
    anti-Israel propagandists still
    claim Israel sank the ship in
    the full knowledge that it was
    American.

    The documents, originally
    defined as top secret, were

    made public by Florida Judge Jay Cristol, who
    has been investigating the Liberty incident for
    years and published a book on the subject last
    year. On Monday, the NSA gave him a transcript
    of conversations held by two Israeli Air Force
    helicopter pilots who were hovering over the
    Liberty as it was sinking, and these tapes
    confirm Israel's claim that the sinking of the
    ship, which killed 34 American servicemen and
    wounded 171, was a tragic error.

    After the Liberty was bombed by both the Israel
    Air Force and the Israel Navy, the two
    helicopter pilots were summoned from their base
    to assess the damage and evaluate the
    possibility of rescuing the surviving crew
    members. An American spy plane, which had been
    sent to the area as soon as the NSA learned of
    the attack, recorded their conversations, which
    took place between 2:30 and 3:37 P.M. on June
    8, the third day of the war.

    The spy plane also recorded the orders radioed
    to the pilots by their supervisor at Hatzor
    Base, which instructed them to search for
    Egyptian survivors from the "Egyptian warship"
    that had just been bombed - thus supporting
    Israel's claim that it had believed the ship
    was Egyptian when it ordered it attacked. "Pay
    attention. The ship is now identified as
    Egyptian," the pilots were told.

    Nine minutes later, Hatzor informed the pilots
    that it was not an Egyptian warship, but an
    Egyptian cargo ship. Only at 3:07 were the
    pilots first informed that the ship might not
    have been Egyptian at all: Hatzor told them
    that if they found Arabic-speaking survivors,
    they should be taken to El-Arish, but if they
    found English-speaking survivors, they should
    be taken to Lod. "Clarify by the first man that
    you bring up, what nationality he is, and
    report to me immediately," the supervisor
    instructed, according to the transcript. "It's
    important to know."

    Then, at 3:12, one of the pilots informed Hatzor
    that he saw an American flag flying over the
    damaged ship. He was asked to investigate and
    determine whether it was really an American
    ship.

    This is not the first time such transcripts have
    been made public: Israel gave its own
    recordings of the pilots' conversations to the
    British television station Thames in 1987. But
    conspiracy theorists charged that Israel had
    doctored the tapes before handing them over to
    the station in order to hide the fact that it
    sank the Liberty intentionally. No such
    imputation can be made about these new
    transcripts, as they were never in Israeli
    hands.

    Israel has always said it attacked the Liberty,
    which America sent to the region to gather
    intelligence on the progress of the war,
    because it believed it was an Egyptian supply
    ship ferrying supplies to the Egyptian troops
    that Israel was then fighting. When it
    discovered the error, it immediately informed
    the Americans, apologized and paid compensation
    to the victims' families.

    The incident was investigated by inquiry
    commissions in both Israel and the United
    States, and both concluded that it had, indeed,
    been a tragic error. Nevertheless, the
    controversy never died. In 1979, one of the
    survivors, James Ennes, published a book
    accusing Israel of bombing the American ship
    deliberately. Ennes claimed an Israeli spy
    plane had hovered over the ship all morning and
    had surely identified it as American, since the
    American flag was clearly visible.

    A later book, written by James Bamford, charged
    that Israel sank the ship in order to keep
    America from learning of its plans to attack
    Syria, and further claimed that the NSA had
    tapes of conversations among Israeli pilots
    that not only confirmed this, but also proved
    that the tapes released by Israel had been
    doctored.

    Another claim that appears frequently on the
    dozens of Internet sites devoted to the affair
    is that Israel sank the ship to conceal a mass
    murder of Egyptian soldiers on the Sinai
    peninsula.

    In its letter to Cristol, the NSA stressed that,
    contrary to the claims that often appear in
    such books and Web sites - that the agency has
    tapes from both the Liberty and from a nearby
    American submarine that confirm Israel's guilt
    - the only tapes that exist were those made by
    the spy plane and given to Cristol this week.

    "It's the last piece of intelligence that
    remained classified, and every rational person
    that will read it will understand that there is
    no truth in these conspiracy theories against
    Israel," Cristol said Tuesday. But he added:
    "Those who hate Israel, who hate Jews, and
    those who believe in conspiracy will not be
    convinced by anything."

    Cristol, a former U.S. navy pilot and legal
    officer, began investigating the Liberty
    incident 14 years ago. Since publishing his
    book, which vindicates Israel, he has received
    threats and been accused of being an Israeli
    agent. "I take this lightly, but I am saddened
    to learn that there is this kind of hate toward
    Israel," he said.


    It's good to see our lackeys in the US in action. that Cristol guy was rather expensive, though, so we had to take some money from our internet paedophilia networks. Luckily we still have control of the African diamond slave mines. This, esp. with our new Iraq assets, will be sufficient to expand our "cleansing" operations against the natives in Palestine. Deathcamps are expensive bussiness, you know.
    urgh.NSFW

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    • #3
      It's good to see our lackeys in the US in action. that Cristol guy was rather expensive, though, so we had to take some money from our internet paedophilia networks. Luckily we still have control of the African diamond slave mines. This, esp. with our new Iraq assets, will be sufficient to expand our "cleansing" operations against the natives in Palestine. Deathcamps are expensive bussiness, you know.


      "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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      • #4
        made public by Florida Judge Jay Cristol
        Hmm...isn't that a jewish name?

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        • #5
          ure****:
          money sqrt evil;
          My literacy level are appalling.

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          • #6
            2Tassadar: pokemons suck! If you play Pokemons for nintendo you are *****
            money sqrt evil;
            My literacy level are appalling.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by muxec
              2Tassadar: pokemons suck! If you play Pokemons for nintendo you are *****
              Obviously you didn't get it
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              • #8
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                "I Balanced Your Books, but You're Breaking My Heart

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                money sqrt evil;
                My literacy level are appalling.

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                • #9
                  It's good to see our lackeys in the US in action. that Cristol guy was rather expensive, though, so we had to take some money from our internet paedophilia networks. Luckily we still have control of the African diamond slave mines. This, esp. with our new Iraq assets, will be sufficient to expand our "cleansing" operations against the natives in Palestine. Deathcamps are expensive bussiness, you know.
                  * writes everything down for future "debates" *

                  Last edited by laurentius; July 9, 2003, 04:58.
                  Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                  - Paul Valery

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                  • #10
                    I had no idea that the Israeli military was so stupid and incompatent then.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • #11
                      I had no idea that the Israeli military was so stupid and incompatent then.




                      what do you think of them now?
                      B♭3

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc
                        I had no idea that the Israeli military was so stupid and incompatent then.

                        That's a good one.

                        Now to prove that we werent stupid we need to prove that we knew the ship was American.
                        "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Q Cubed
                          what do you think of them now?
                          I haven't heard of them doing repeated recon flights in broad daylights and mistaking a target for something it doesn't even look like and attacking said target for quite awhile so I'll reserve judgement.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            I had no idea that the Israeli military was so stupid and incompatent then.
                            ****ups happen. And was indeed a terrible ****-up, and we were terribly sorry that it happened. Your criticizing of the IDF has been noticed, written down, and put in trashbin.

                            urgh.NSFW

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Azazel
                              And was indeed a terrible ****-up, and we were terribly sorry that it happened.
                              I'm shocked that you even beat the Arabs that war with such stupid people in the chain of command.
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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