Why do conservatives say poor don't pay taxes?

[JohnT]

Payroll taxes are taxes that are based upon the size of a business's payroll - essentially, the business is being taxed for the "right" to hire you. Of course, this tax comes out of your paycheck.

Social Security is a payroll tax, just as are unemployment taxes, Medicare, etc.

[yavoon]

Originally posted by Kidicious


It's not about that. It's about feeling that you are equal in a society that says that everyone is suppose to be equal but aren't. How do you think that would make you feel? Pretty ****ty, huh?

I sure hope everyone isnt equal. I imagine radical liberalism are the only people who advocate everyone's equality. I imagine most sane people recognize some people are smarter more talented, luckier, sexier any number of other desirable traits. but they ARE NOT DISTRIBUTED EQUALLY.

that doesn't mean one can discern who has it better or worse. but it sure is easy to tell thatpeople don't have it equal.

[Berzerker]

Diss, payroll taxes are the taxes we pay for Social Security.

Kid -

Maybe not, but it did eliminate much suffering and death caused by poverty in this country. People recieved a means to survival when they had none previously.

Do you have statistics showing that more people died because of poverty in 1962 than in 1968 and that the drop resulted from LBJ's war on poverty?

[Sava]

Rehab won't work for people who only see a life of poverty ahead of them, because it doesn't address the societal problem

apples and oranges... addiction is at the root of substance abuse... they are two seperate, but sometimes related, problems that require seperate solutions.

[Berzerker]

the business is being taxed for the "right" to hire you. Of course, this tax comes out of your paycheck.

Yup.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Kidicious
So they should be made poorer?

If you don't pay any taxes, why should the government have any obligation to you? Even the poor should have to pay taxes.

[Velociryx]

Ohhhh, it looks like it's turning into a debate on my favorite topic....

-=Vel=-

[Spiffor]

Hi Vel !

Did you see I agreed with you yesterday ? (in the image of America thread)

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Asher
Why do liberals say conservatives say poor don't pay taxes?

Talk to JohnT

[JohnT]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


Talk to JohnT

Sez a man who, in a debate about tax policy, actually faked his numbers and processes.

Anyway, I already replied in this thread. Check it out.

[Velociryx]

Master Spiff! I read that thread, but did not get a chance to reply yet! (still unpacking, and sneaking up here in-between boxes!). Nonetheless, I was jazzed to be on the same side o' the fence with ya!

-=Vel=-
(who now must return to his patriotic chest thumping and flag waving!--kiddin' Spiff! )

[KrazyHorse]

Did I now. Or was it the guy who invented 3 children where none existed before?

****! If I had 384 children then I wouldn't have to pay taxes...

[JohnT]

Yeah, you did. I have the thread saved to my HD at work... want me to dig it up?

And it wasn't three children... it was three people, one of which was a child. You can't even remember the debate properly.

You know, both Kidicious and Chegitz tried to use fake numbers on me in a thread a month or so ago.... what is it with you types? Have you no ?

[KrazyHorse]

As I recall, I stated that a man earning 15000 a year would pay federal income tax. You claimed he wouldn't and then gave him a family to ensure he wouldn't (after I'd looked up the personal exemption on the IRS website BTW)...

[KrazyHorse]

So where were the fake numbers?

I also posted how much tax was being witheld from my paycheques (admittedly in a different country...but with a comparable tax scheme) when I was being paid near minimum wage on a full time job.

Works out to about 15-20% (federal and provincial taxes included) up here...