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  • #46
    Originally posted by Dissident
    because everyone should contribute in society, that's why
    There's that word 'should.' People should do a lot of things, maybe help others too. Well, what does 'should' have to do with reality. Reality it that the poor suffer and you propose increasing their suffering.
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    • #47
      cuz in theory to allow it u would have to restrict how those who do have money spend it.
      What do you think taxes do?
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Kidicious
        There's that word 'should.' People should do a lot of things, maybe help others too. Well, what does 'should' have to do with reality. Reality it that the poor suffer and you propose increasing their suffering.
        Oh, I like this game!
        Reality is the poor pay taxes. I win!!! Awesome.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Asher

          What do you think taxes do?
          u mean tax incentives or taxes? just taxes restrict how much u have. tax incentives try to coerce u into spending it in a gov't approved way.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by yavoon
            u mean tax incentives or taxes? just taxes restrict how much u have. tax incentives try to coerce u into spending it in a gov't approved way.
            Taxes take your money to control how it's spent, ie. how the government wants it spent.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Asher

              Taxes take your money to control how it's spent, ie. how the government wants it spent.
              oh yes I see what u mean. I was talking more about personal expenditures. u r talking about gov't programs.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Kidicious


                Even if that were possible, and it's not, would you then tax the poor?
                Perhaps it's possible... but even if it's not, there are lot of improvements that could be made. To answer your question... I would not place any direct taxes on people living in poverty, but they would be subject to other taxes... such as a sales tax on tobacco, marijuana, alcohol, etc... but I believe in progressive taxation.
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Sava
                  I would not place any direct taxes on people living in poverty, but they would be subject to other taxes... such as a sales tax on tobacco, marijuana, alcohol, etc... but I believe in progressive taxation.
                  Sin taxes don't reduce consumption. In fact the lower your income is the more likely you are to consume self-destructive things. That's why I don't think they are fair. If you eliminate poverty people will take better care of themselves, because they will have more to live for.
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                  • #54
                    Re: Why do conservatives say poor don't pay taxes?

                    Originally posted by Dissident
                    Hannity specifically. And Colmes isn't challenging him on it. Is this true?

                    Why is it when I was in the military I had to pay taxes when I made $18,000 a year or less? Am I doing something wrong? Or do I have to have kids to get out of paying taxes.

                    Does anyone know how the tax brackets break down? I'd like to see the tax brackets.

                    If I was paying taxes when I didn't have to, I will be real pissed .
                    Oh, Lordy, not this one again.

                    By "not paying taxes", what they mean is that poor families have no income tax bite due to child tax credits, the EITC, etc. This point has been debated and discussed over and over again on this board.

                    It does not mean that poor people don't pay sales taxes, payroll taxes, etc. etc.

                    If the debate is about Federal Income Taxes, then Hannity is, by and large, correct.

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                    • #55
                      Sin taxes don't reduce consumption. In fact the lower your income is the more likely you are to consume self-destructive things. That's why I don't think they are fair. If you eliminate poverty people will take better care of themselves, because they will have more to live for.
                      I would tax those things to pay for addiction and rehab programs. Poor people aren't the only ones who do drugs you know.
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by The Templar


                        Actually, capitalism kept the TV off the market for decades. (RCA held back development and infrastructure until the inventor's patent ran out).
                        Cite?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Sava
                          I would tax those things to pay for addiction and rehab programs.
                          Rehab won't work for people who only see a life of poverty ahead of them, because it doesn't address the societal problem.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Kidicious


                            Rehab won't work for people who only see a life of poverty ahead of them, because it doesn't address the societal problem.
                            nothing to live for if u cant be rich? I hear ya brother.

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                            • #59
                              exactly what are payroll taxes?

                              My state is raising taxes by almost $1 billion a year (and I live in a very small state), and we are getting payroll taxes.

                              I'd like to know what they are. Are they like income tax?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by yavoon nothing to live for if u cant be rich? I hear ya brother.
                                It's not about that. It's about feeling that you are equal in a society that says that everyone is suppose to be equal but aren't. How do you think that would make you feel? Pretty ****ty, huh?
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