Nuclear Weapons found in Iraq!!!!

[Dis]

nukes are not weapons of mass destruction.

There still are no weapons of mass destruction. Bush must pay for this- same with Blair

[Nubclear]

12 YEARS AGO?! And then the CIA says that it doesnt mean much of anything!!!!

My thought that they had WoMD is continuously proven wrong.....I feel so stupid for believing they had them.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by notyoueither
... The war is over...

Since the fall of Bagdhad, an average of more than one coalition soldier per day has been KIA. The war isn't over, it has just entered the guerilla phase.

[Gatekeeper]

**shrug** I'm willing to give them up to a year to find anything significant in terms of WMD. Saddam had roughly 12 years to disperse whatever he had, and I'm sure there's more than one backyard that contains more than, well, grass.

Gatekeeper

[Jaakko]

The pictures have what looks like a single bearing and a hub.

Also, the CIA website had this: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...q_Oct_2002.htm

It now gives a 404 error, but is cached on Google. From the page:

Based on tubes of the size Iraq is trying to acquire, a few tens of thousands of centrifuges would be capable of producing enough highly enriched uranium for a couple of weapons per year.

Is Bush planning to be in power ten thousand years from now?

[Ted Striker]

There is no doubt in my mind that Iraq was pursuing a nuclear weapons program.

However this evidence doesn't count.

Anybody remember the "supergun" the Iraqis were working on pre-Gulf War 1? Basically it was a big ass cannon that could fire projectiles hundreds of miles...

[Lefty Scaevola]

Must come as a shock to Al-Baradi, who reported the iraqi nuclear weapons program entierely disposed of.

[uh Clem]

There is no doubt in my mind that Iraq was pursuing a nuclear weapons program.

Please share your evidence.

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Ted Striker

Anybody remember the "supergun" the Iraqis were working on pre-Gulf War 1? Basically it was a big ass cannon that could fire projectiles hundreds of miles...

You mean the gun that was designed by a Canadian and had its components built in the UK.

[Mercator]

What more evidence do you want?!

Obviously, every Iraqi scientist and army officer has a few parts hidden in his backyard. In a few months they could have dug them up and assembled it into a giant nuclear weapons plant (not to mention all the dirt and rosebushes could be used to camouflage it).

How would you all have liked it then, eh? Building bombs with YOUR name on it!

EDIT: absolutely VITAL changes made to this post.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

maybe the US blew up all the WMD with the complete ass kicking we put on iraq. yeah yeah... cuba could have probably taken iraq - heard it all before.

i'm surprised the US has not just planted false WMD and claimed a success in finding them. Since when is the US honest?!? and why start now!

[PLATO]

Okay, a couple of points:

1.)

"It begins to tell us how huge our job is," Kay said. "Remember, his material was buried in a barrel behind his house in a rose garden. There's no way that that would have been discovered by normal international inspections. I couldn't have done it. My successors couldn't have done it."

Inspector saying that "no way" inspections would have revealed this small piece of the pie.


2.) ALL of the Anthrax that Iraq was said to have could be stored in the space of less than half a semi-trailer.


3.) Saddam was ACTIVELY trying to HIDE his WMD from inspectors pre-war.

4.) Iraq is a country the size of California

5.) Only and idiot would think that the fact that nothing has turned up yet is CONCLUSIVE that they did not exist.

There continues to be small pieces of evidence being uncovered. No particular one is a smoking gun. Together they begin to confirm parts of the picture that was laid out for the case for war. Only time will tell the true story. If you will notice, this particular person has only been on the job a couple of days. It seems that the real assets for being able to discover this stuff may just now be getting in place. As I keep saying over and over...Give it time. Personally, I trust the intelligence gathering ability of the CIA a bit more than that of Poly liberals.

[lord of the mark]

as usual folks are confusing the Casus bellii with the strategic justification.

"Cant go to war if he is only in technical violation of UN UNSC 1441, thats not a real threat. "

"The possibility of him reconstituting his programs after an unsustainable sanctions/isolation regime falls apart is not justification for war, since theres no basis in international law to attack based on such long strategic views"

To this way of thinking, war would only have been allowed if Saddam was within a few months of actually building nukes. Which he wasnt. But of course this whole approach is illogical.

Legally - he was required under UNSC 1441 to report any equipment for nuclear enrichment. He did not report this equipment, he kept it hidden. He was therefore in violation of UNSC 1441. As all agreed (including France) the ultimate consequnce of this was war. France said that the inspectors could have found everything with more time. Its fairly clear the inspectors wouldnt have found this. Ergo there was Casus belli under UNSC 1441 - case closed.

Strategic - Clearly Saddam had a strategy behind this - he was waiting for the sanctions to fall apart and Iraq to emerge from isolation - which was already happening before 9/11 - and then he intended to reconstitute his nuclear program. This is what many (such as Ken Pollack) said, and this supports that argument. Strategic case supported.

[Darius871]

Re: Nuclear Weapons found in Iraq!!!!

Originally posted by Agathon
Well not quite, but I'm sure this will be hyped to the heavens.

This thread is full of straw man arguments; nobody's hailing this as a smoking gun, so I don't know why it's being ridiculed as if it were. It's merely worth reporting.

[Az]

12 empty shells burried in a dump (and found by inspections, no less) do not an argument for war make.

Hi, Yoda.