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btw, earlier in the thread elijah talked about kibbutzim; they are dying a slow, privatising death. Sad...
(I'm libertarian communits, aka anarchist, myself btw)
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Oh ok. So Japan isn't an example of true neoliberalism after all, unlike what you said eleven posts earlier? Then how can you know for sure it's the liberal part of their policies that led to their economic expansion, and not the protectionist part?Originally posted by Fez
It isn't. That is why Japan only instated some neoliberal reforms and thus experienced an economic boom.
I don't want to say at all I think protectionism causes economic expansion; I simply can't follow your logic Fez.
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My logic? I didn't say Japan was a perfect example of neoliberalism, all I said elements of neoliberalist policy were used.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Ah ok. Sorry. I probably misinterpreted "true neoliberal policies".
Btw, I have another question for you. In your opinion, is there or has there ever been a country that was a perfect example of neoliberalism? What country, what period, and do you perhaps know economic growth figures? When you have that, we can compare with other systems to proof or disproof the superiority of neoliberal policies, and see if it is the perfect recipe for economic growth.Comment
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True, but they proved their point by working for so long! My old man lived on one for a couple of years in the early 70's, and my grandparents did the same a decade before.btw, earlier in the thread elijah talked about kibbutzim; they are dying a slow, privatising death. Sad...
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You the man!! Check out the Mill Limit article I wrote (link in sig), see what you think, maybe pm?
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Is this an endurance game? How many times you can make a point before people recognise (if not accept) it?Libertarian communism? Man what the hell are you ranting about? There is no such thing. That is a blatant contradiction
Read my article (god I'm a self-publicity machine but still...) seriously!!
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Castor is a dictator. All most all comunist governments crack down on people who oppose them. Look at what happened in China, millions died their, millions died during the Soviet Union rule. Communism oppresses people more than any other system of government. If you trying to tell me this is not true then you need to read anther history book because the one you have is wrong.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Not true. Castro is in no way like Stalin, and Nicaragua wasn't dictatorial at all. Finland wasn't dictatorial for the few months it was red. The Indian state of Karala has never been dicatorial. East Timor isn't dictatorial. Most places where Communists have taken power, Stalin-like dictators have not popped, though most have become dictatorships. Then again, the track record of capitalists nations isn't very good. Only a small handlful havn't gone through a dictatorship themselves.Comment
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Not all dictators are equally bad.Originally posted by Jack_www
Castor is a dictator. All most all comunist governments crack down on people who oppose them. Look at what happened in China, millions died their, millions died during the Soviet Union rule. Communism oppresses people more than any other system of government. If you trying to tell me this is not true then you need to read anther history book because the one you have is wrong.
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I don't care if your source was written by Pol Pot, some crackpot out of Harvard or Ronald McDonald, I am a capitalist and you won't be abled to change that with phony rhetoric.Originally posted by elijah
Is this an endurance game? How many times you can make a point before people recognise (if not accept) it?
Read my article (god I'm a self-publicity machine but still...) seriously!!
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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No.Originally posted by Maniac
Btw, I have another question for you. In your opinion, is there or has there ever been a country that was a perfect example of neoliberalism?
Chile is often a model I refer to for my own personal beliefs. They experienced a good two decades of +8% GDP growth... it has moderated out a bit to about +5.5% as of late.What country, what period, and do you perhaps know economic growth figures?For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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You know a lot about using phony rhetoric, don't you?Originally posted by Fez
I don't care if your source was written by Pol Pot, some crackpot out of Harvard or Ronald McDonald, I am a capitalist and you won't be abled to change that with phony rhetoric.
A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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Yeah I usually study and watch it occur on the other political side.Originally posted by MrFun
You know a lot about using phony rhetoric, don't you?
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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They abandoned those stupid policies. That's why the economy improved.Originally posted by Fez
Chile is often a model I refer to for my own personal beliefs. They experienced a good two decades of +8% GDP growth... it has moderated out a bit to about +5.5% as of late.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Originally posted by Spiffor
Despite being communists, we happen to live in a capitalist society. Since we couldn't have changed it yet, we have no choice but to live in it, for the time being.
Communism isn't an ethics of poverty nor of ascetism. Actually, one of the hopes of communism is that everybody can afford a comfortable and enjoyable way of life. I don't see any problem with doing so in the capitalist society if we can afford it.
It's called using the system against itself to change, baby.
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No they didn't you economic illiterate.Originally posted by Kidicious
They abandoned those stupid policies. That's why the economy improved.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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