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  • #16
    Gatherings that help young gay people like me accept their sexuality is definitely a superb idea.

    But do you really think these in your face marches actually help anybody? They just cause more violence here in Argentina.. after what I been reading in State Department and other non-government reports.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Fez
      Gatherings that help young gay people like me accept their sexuality is definitely a superb idea.
      I went to a local gay youthgroup monday night.

      It was a total dud, they're all so freaky and we played a queer version of Cranium which had questions like "What's Madonna's Real Name?" and "Sculpt a penis with your eyes closed and make your teammates guess it".
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Asher
        "Sculpt a penis with your eyes closed and make your teammates guess it".
        FAGS!

        .. sorry, but come the **** on.
        "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
        - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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        • #19
          I know. I was embarrassed to be there, we ditched halfway through.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Asher

            I went to a local gay youthgroup monday night.

            It was a total dud, they're all so freaky and we played a queer version of Cranium which had questions like "What's Madonna's Real Name?" and "Sculpt a penis with your eyes closed and make your teammates guess it".
            I said a superb idea... if it actually lived up to potentials.

            I never actually been to any meetings... but that sounds like a dud indeed.

            Last time there was such a chance.. I was a fascist.. and in bad shape (when I was claiming I was straight).. I terrorized those folks at the meeting. They had to actually move it because of me.

            I regret those actions.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #21
              alright, now im curious. what exactly were your teammates guessing?
              "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
              - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Uber KruX
                alright, now im curious. what exactly were your teammates guessing?
                I didn't have to do that one. Another group did.

                I did meet someone there who knew me from online (my livejournal). He was a total ****ing ass, too. He got pissed off at me because I didn't pay much attention to him. He doesn't seem to care that I was with my bf and didn't want to dedicate my time talking to some boring geek in political science.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #23
                  That is real depressing asher... real depressing.. I would of thought they would be more productive... but I assumed wrong.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Asher

                    I didn't have to do that one. Another group did.

                    I did meet someone there who knew me from online (my livejournal). He was a total ****ing ass, too. He got pissed off at me because I didn't pay much attention to him. He doesn't seem to care that I was with my bf and didn't want to dedicate my time talking to some boring geek in political science.
                    perhaps this is my ignorance speaking, infact it is, so forget it, i'll just ask it as a question: what percentage of gays are completely monomagous?
                    "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                    - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Uber KruX
                      perhaps this is my ignorance speaking, infact it is, so forget it, i'll just ask it as a question: what percentage of gays are completely monomagous?
                      Hell if I know. There is not just one type of "gay".

                      Some are total sluts, some are in "open" relationships, some are totally monogamous.

                      I'm the latter...
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Asher

                        Hell if I know. There is not just one type of "gay".

                        Some are total sluts, some are in "open" relationships, some are totally monogamous.

                        I'm the latter...
                        yes, but in my, perhaps ignorant, understanding, the latter is the minority of the minority.

                        maybe you have gays sterotying gays there?

                        i should probably sleep now. i'm goin on hour 44 of counsiousness right now, and i've been out of dew for the last 2.

                        latez.
                        "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                        - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                        • #27
                          I honestly don't know who there are more of. Of the people I hang out with, the vast majority of them are monogamous.

                          On the other hand, the club scene is likely much different.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #28
                            I think it's better to elminate boundaries and feelings of being different, rather than promote how different we are.
                            Judge people as individuals! You are "Mr.Fun" not an "Adult White Male Homosexual".

                            I've got nothing agianst people's right to organize, but I think it detracts from the movement. Gay rights are important because all individuals should be entitled to the same rights, but why that is necessary through the flaunting of something about you that you can't change is beyond me.

                            Do heterosexuals go around having heterosexual pride parades? How would it make you feel if we did? Excluded, right? Alien? Not welcome? How do you think these Homosexual Pride parades make Heterosexuals feel? The same thing.
                            "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
                            You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

                            "I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Uber KruX


                              perhaps this is my ignorance speaking, infact it is, so forget it, i'll just ask it as a question: what percentage of gays are completely monomagous?
                              Monogamy versus open relationships can sometimes be a hot-button issue among homosexuals themselves.

                              Some gays argue that men, through natural evolution behave like most males of other mammal species -- they are not monogamously inclined -- they go after one female after another. So these people argue that monogamous relationships between two men who are both not naturally monogamously inclined, are not likely to succeed in a monogamous relationship. The only reason that heterosexual marriages survive the way they do (not ones ending in divorce) is because the woman plays the balancing part against the man's natural sexual tendencies.

                              This is their argument, but while I understand their argument, I still believe that two men can establish a successful, monogamous relationship. The problem is that not very many gay men want to try and make the effort since it takes a lot of work. I believe that gay men can overcome this natural sexual tendency argued above, even with the absence of a female partner/spouse. I desire a monogamous relationship.

                              I argue that the anti-gay laws in United States help to prevent homosexuals from embracing the family values that many conservatives claim are important in society. Often, the same conservatives who complain that homosexuals constantly seem to fail to embrace family values, advocate for laws that prevent or discourage homosexuals from embracing such family values.

                              In spite of these homophobic obstacles though, there are a minority of homosexuals who create stable families of their own through legal loopholes and legal tactics. How many more homosexuals would create good families with the absence of anti-gay laws?

                              In other words, anti-gay laws seem to discourage the development of more strong monogamous relationships among gay men.

                              Oh, and as for the original question about what percentage of homosexuals believe in monogamy -- I don't know if there was ever a survey conducted to find out.
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                              • #30
                                Well Mr Fun, not all conservatives are like that. There is probably a difference between an Euro-conservative and an American one, as an I am euro conservative but I do support equal rights for all.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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