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  • #1

    What are your plans?

    Boris, Redjon, Starchild, Asher, and anyone else interested -- what are your plans for Gay Pride, if you have any plans for this annual event?

    Me and a good friend plan to stay over night in Milwaukee on its Gay Pride weekend. That will be my first Gay Pride visit to Milwaukee -- been to Chicago's Gay Pride twice.
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    I don't know if this is accurate, but I heard in Argentina.. people in the gay pride parade had to wear masks because of fear of police retribution. This is what I heard in a US state department report. I don't think I will attend one if there be one here in Buenos Aires.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #3
      I don't do the pride thing. Neither does my bf.
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      • #4
        That's fine, Asher.
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        • #5
          I know it is.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #6
            MrFun, everything else aside, what does Gay Pride do for your movement?

            I understand that you want to be proud of who you are, and you have that right. You have the right to organize, you have the right to parade, all that good stuff, but what does it do other than make you feel better about yourself?

            as Fez said, there are possible backlashes. not only that, theres just simply the fact that it seems like the Gays are just "forcing" it on everyone, with their "we're here, we're queer, get used to it" motto.

            So, elighten me. I'm sure you'll come up with valid points. I'm genuinely curious as to what you think such activities do for you gay community.
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            • #7
              I went to the bi bar last year for pride!

              PRIDE
              PRIDE!
              PRIDE

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Zylka
                I went to the bi bar last year for pride!

                PRIDE
                PRIDE!
                PRIDE
                i dont think talking two lesbians into a threesome counts as pride.
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                • #9
                  That's the problem with

                  PRIDE

                  As I don't have much of it in myself... but I'm not a dlck enough to say no to a friend even if it is a gay bar. I mean, take a good look at me, it's not like I have a small penis

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                  • #10
                    I personally don't think gay pride is necessary or even beneficial for the community, which is why I largely ignore it.

                    I think it's better to elminate boundaries and feelings of being different, rather than promote how different we are.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Asher
                      I personally don't think gay pride is necessary or even beneficial for the community, which is why I largely ignore it.

                      I think it's better to elminate boundaries and feelings of being different, rather than promote how different we are.
                      bingo.

                      so you're gay. are you a good guy? do i have to know you're gay? do you have to come out and shout it at me before i get to know you at all?

                      when it comes, it comes, but i dont see why anyone would want to introduce sterotypes before actually talking to people.
                      "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Uber KruX
                        as Fez said, there are possible backlashes. not only that, theres just simply the fact that it seems like the Gays are just "forcing" it on everyone, with their "we're here, we're queer, get used to it" motto.

                        So, elighten me. I'm sure you'll come up with valid points. I'm genuinely curious as to what you think such activities do for you gay community.
                        Exactly. Gay pride parades are retroactive in my opinion. Especially in Argentina. What happened here is the police go after people who didn't wear masks to seal their identify and did some awful things to them. There is also a group called Alizana Anti-comunista Argentina that has had a record of dealing some awful things.

                        These gay parades just damage the gay population.. they do nothing to help tolerance. That is why I'd never consider joining one.
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Uber KruX
                          MrFun, everything else aside, what does Gay Pride do for your movement?

                          I understand that you want to be proud of who you are, and you have that right. You have the right to organize, you have the right to parade, all that good stuff, but what does it do other than make you feel better about yourself?

                          as Fez said, there are possible backlashes. not only that, theres just simply the fact that it seems like the Gays are just "forcing" it on everyone, with their "we're here, we're queer, get used to it" motto.

                          So, elighten me. I'm sure you'll come up with valid points. I'm genuinely curious as to what you think such activities do for you gay community.
                          Homosexuals have long been shoved into social closets and forbidden to disclose their sexual orientation in the same way that heterosexuals do.

                          Gay Pride seems to have originated as a form of direct, active protest against injustices against homosexuals. Some claim that the first Gay Pride protest emerged the next day from the Stonewall protest in New York City in 1969. Gay Pride continues to serve as a method of protest for homosexuals, while at the same time, retaining a festive, celebratory atmosphere.

                          I will never forget the first time I went to Gay Pride -- it was in Chicago in the year 2000. I was really inspired to see so many homosexuals, bisexuals and other types of non-heterosexuals. I realized afterwards that our situation is not that hopeless. So in another way, Gay Pride events can help uplift young homosexuals struggling to acccept themselves.

                          Homosexuals are not forcing their sexual orientation -- unless they are immature jerks looking to shock people in inappropriate behavior that would not be appropriate for straight people, as well.

                          Many homosexuals are demanding social acceptance to the extent that they can comfortably express themselves the same way as heterosexuals. And that they can publicly celebrate life's milestones, such as a life-long, monomgamous relationship.

                          Like any minority group, we have our extremists as well. Those who seek to alienate and shock others through outrageous, inappropriate behavior. They are just one of the groups undermining the continuing gay civil rights movement.
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                          • #14
                            see? that makes sense.

                            but i still see what you describe as more of a gay gathernig, while "pride parades" have a different connotation in my head.
                            "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Uber KruX
                              see? that makes sense.

                              but i still see what you describe as more of a gay gathernig, while "pride parades" have a different connotation in my head.
                              Oh believe me, Gay Pride parades and events are very much part of the gay civil rights movement. There are many sub-groups that display political statements and stage political protests -- same way that other gay gatherings you are thinking of do.
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