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  • #76
    There was a saying, "The Mustang can't do what the Spitfire can, but it can do it over Berlin". From what I've read the Griffon-engined Spits were better than the Mustang.

    I do admit however, that the Mustang was THE plane that contributed most to the demise of the luftwaffe after 1944, thanks to the attrition losses inflicted during the bomber offensive.


    Now, for my shameless promo:

    I have a website (unfinished) on miltary aviation, this is the link to the ww2 section (the only one semi-complete) but it's got a lot of info and nice pictures:



    I also have production stats, I'm sure they also vary, there seems to be slight discrpancies between sources but overall the stats more or less give a good indication of the real production numbers. The 35,000 for the Yak is usually given to reflect the overall Yak series (3/5/7/9) since some people takem them as variants of a single design (which I think is wrong)
    A true ally stabs you in the front.

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    • #77
      As far as this poll goes, Spitfire is the best.

      Out of everything though, nothing can compete with the one and only...



      Er, wait, wrong picture.

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      • #78
        you wanted a nice Dora Nine pic?



        shameless promo (from my site )
        A true ally stabs you in the front.

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        • #79
          If I could vote, I would vote for the P-51. In it's short time in the war, it shot down more German than any other aircraft.
          No one here said anything about the British Tempest.

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          • #80
            Beautiful Spit pic:

            A true ally stabs you in the front.

            Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Master Zen
              There was a saying, "The Mustang can't do what the Spitfire can, but it can do it over Berlin". From what I've read the Griffon-engined Spits were better than the Mustang.
              That is untrue.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #82
                Why running across Me-262s is a bad idea...

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Fez


                  Hmm.. some of those numbers are completely different than my source. Either one of our sources is wrong.
                  I'm a member of Military Book Club, and I got this book about 2 months ago. It is new. They have a web site. Add .com to the name and you can see the site.

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                  • #84
                    Hmmm, my picture stopped working. Here's another.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Joseph
                      I'm a member of Military Book Club, and I got this book about 2 months ago. It is new. They have a web site. Add .com to the name and you can see the site.
                      Well what about my site?

                      So it is a piece of crap now because your source says something completely different?
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #86
                        The was an account on S. Ambrose's D-Day book on an attack of 1,200 B-17s and 1,000 Mustang escorts against Berlin in 1945, it was attacked by a lone squadron of Me-262s, 20 bombers and 10 fighters were shot down with no losses whatsoever to the Germans. Impressive. If it had entered service in 1943...
                        A true ally stabs you in the front.

                        Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by cinch
                          What about the good ol' Grumman Goblin?



                          Valiantly protecting the Maritimes from the Nazis!
                          A Grumman F3F-2 or 3

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Master Zen
                            The was an account on S. Ambrose's D-Day book on an attack of 1,200 B-17s and 1,000 Mustang escorts against Berlin in 1945, it was attacked by a lone squadron of Me-262s, 20 bombers and 10 fighters were shot down with no losses whatsoever to the Germans. Impressive. If it had entered service in 1943...
                            Probably because of the sheer logistics and the fact that the Germans had the defensive.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Fez


                              Probably because of the sheer logistics and the fact that the Germans had the defensive.
                              or probably because it was far superior to any other plane of its time?
                              A true ally stabs you in the front.

                              Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Master Zen
                                There was a saying, "The Mustang can't do what the Spitfire can, but it can do it over Berlin". From what I've read the Griffon-engined Spits were better than the Mustang.

                                I do admit however, that the Mustang was THE plane that contributed most to the demise of the luftwaffe after 1944, thanks to the attrition losses inflicted during the bomber offensive.


                                Now, for my shameless promo:

                                I have a website (unfinished) on miltary aviation, this is the link to the ww2 section (the only one semi-complete) but it's got a lot of info and nice pictures:



                                I also have production stats, I'm sure they also vary, there seems to be slight discrpancies between sources but overall the stats more or less give a good indication of the real production numbers. The 35,000 for the Yak is usually given to reflect the overall Yak series (3/5/7/9) since some people takem them as variants of a single design (which I think is wrong)
                                Yak 1 = 8,700
                                Yak 3 = 4,850
                                Yak 7 = 6,400
                                Yak 9D = 16,800
                                ______________
                                36,750

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