Hispanics As the Beauty Ideal

[Az]

wtf is "washed out" guys?

[Bereta_Eder]

its just an expression.

for example you have a red t-shirt and you put it in the washing machine for a myriad of times. after that it looses its colour and becomes "washed out".

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
Sava:

Oerdin said it on the "Why do Asians look Asian" thread... plus i hear it repeatedly ever few weeks where someone says that the beauty standard is for the blue-eyed blonde... another tool of the white man's oppression, some say.

It's not a tool of the whiteman's oppression but one look at any women's magazine will tell you which beauty ideal sells issues. That it is women who buy these magazines and not men leads me to believe many women have bought into the idea that the northern European look is the "most beautiful. Just look how blonde hair dye and blue eye contacts sell so well. Look at how east Asian and south Asian women often get plastic surgery in order to better fit this supposed ideal. Lastly, look at how high, certainly the highest of any ethnic group, the marry out rate is for Asian women.

That was the one that struck me most when I took my Asian-American studies class (I'm a white boy but I wanted to broaden my outlook). Many Asian-Americans have begun to believe the media advertising which our culture is submerged in where it is beaten over their head that white is beautiful and the northern white look is the most sought after. It's sad but true and Asians aren't the only ones just about every minority group has the same negitive self image.

[Dinner]

Speer: BTW the thing with getting a suntan started in the late 19th century as a way for the leasure class to show off how much extra time they had to waste at the beach or on tropical vacations. This was especially true in the northeast where your average factory worker had a pasty white complexion from always being in doors.

[Shi Huangdi]

What is beautiful is subjective, ideas on it vary within and across cultures.

[Az]

Oerdin is correct: prior to that, having no Sun-tan showed that you had to work in the fields.

But still, tanned features are good, for a very natural reason. Though that reason only becomes apparent in the nude, since nudity and it's acceptability is becoming more and more widespread in our society, the effects of tan are well known to everyone. More vivid, and distinguished features.

[Bereta_Eder]

actually having a sunt tan was considered bad sometime ago. that you were working outside.

hence nobility did not have sun tan.


afterwards and with the evolution of humanity it was considered evident that a tanned skin is healthier than a pale one hence everyone went to get one and look healthy.

[Traianvs]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
What is beautiful is subjective, ideas on it vary within and across cultures.

sure but an asian will still agree with europeans on who is beautiful or not for example...

a beautiful asian looks kinda different from a beautiful european, but nevertheless, we both know who's beatuful and who's not

[Bereta_Eder]

BTW it's evident that speer feels that he's been discriminated arbitrarily by fashion magazines.

I think this is because as shi said different cultures have different ideas about beauty which for most of them is based on how they look so since in the US lighter skin is the majority the majority gets to dictate its own perception of beauty.

[Az]

Originally posted by paiktis22
actually having a sunt tan was considered bad sometime ago. that you were working outside.

hence nobility did not have sun tan.


afterwards and with the evolution of humanity it was considered evident that a tanned skin is healthier than a pale one hence everyone went to get one and look healthy.

I just said that.

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by Trajanus


sure but an asian will still agree with europeans on who is beautiful or not for example...

a beautiful asian looks kinda different from a beautiful european, but nevertheless, we both know who's beatuful and who's not

It depends, different people like different characteristics. One notable example is the impact of weight. In the United States among White America, fat is considered horrible for girls and makes a girl much less attractive. Some African cultures, however, find attractive(more to love). Even in the US, there is the stereotype black men love big butts and whites well.... don't. Traditonally, Europe has held paleness up as a part of beauty, whereas in the US people tend to like tan girls. Many Asians strongly prefer Asian Girls. If you want to look at historically, in a previous time in American one of the key things to look for in a wife was a full, healthy set of teeth. In Ancient Greece, women weren't relaly considered that beautiful at all, men were considered to be the standard of beauty in that society. Of course even within a small cultural subgroup, you will find people have their own individual tastes and men will have their own idea on what the perfect woman looks like. As you can see, what is beautiful is largely a subjective thing.

[Az]

Shi: about body weight: this is not entirely correct. For example, the 90-60-90 forms have been proven to be preferrable by men from all over the globe, even men in Amazon tribes.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Azazel
Shi: about body weight: this is not entirely correct. For example, the 90-60-90 forms have been proven to be preferrable by men from all over the globe, even men in Amazon tribes.

Not on your life buddy! :insert barf icon here:

I do know that in the middle ages until about the 17th century men wanted to marry a big girl because that meant she came from a family who was rich enough to feed her and take care of her so they'd probably have money for a dowry.

Crass but true.

[Az]

That's because the choice was that or a "hardworking" woman.

Believe me, I **** you not. There was a BBC program that talked about that, and showed that. I thought your way, too, until I saw that show.

It seems that what we'd find a good looking woman, our ancestors would find that, too. It's just they were much rarer, so their standards were much lower.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Re: Hispanics As the Beauty Ideal

Originally posted by Albert Speer
I even heard that some women were getting plastic surgery to increase the size of their rear a la a certain puerto rican actress.

so i dont see how there is a blonde, blue-eyed standard of beauty. the standard of beauty is clearly for the caramel-toned/coffee with cream skin, black hair, and brown/black eyes.

(AS is glad he fulfills the standard of beauty )

That's one hell of a long-winded way of telling us that you've got a fat arse.