Commitee of Strategic Planning

[binTravkin]

The attack is planned without catapults?

Chukos have collateral damage too.

They have +40% and I doubt they'll have any more soon.
It goes like:

+50% city def
+25% hills def
+40% culture
0-25% fortify
possible 20% city defense trained

That's 6.45 - 7.2(7.8 with training) + 1 first strike
versus 6.6 + 2 first strikes of our chukos

IIRC first strike tends to do 10% damage (plus any collateral accumulated) which means 6.48(7.02) real combat strength.

But we're gonna take their 3rd city first, after that cap will be easier.

[Lacero]

Also right now Banana's don't even have archery, let alone archers. Unless GS are giving them away (is that what GS are mass producing rubbish units for? I hope not.)

[binTravkin]

GS is producing mass of units to storm Vox in some 15 turns (once they have some cats/ellies).

[Lacero]

We may have to give Vox one of the Banana cities to keep them alive. Temporarily.

[binTravkin]

Indeed, but is there any use of that?
Wouldn't it be more practical to just have that city ourselves?

[Lacero]

Isn't having 2 civs on the continent better than haivng one? Due to palace bonuses / upkeep etc? I mean if it looks like they're going to lose their last city we can keep them alive to get those benefits, if there aren't any benefits then sure we're better off with the city ourselves.

[Mart]

Having a vassal state can be useful, but there may be time for "anexation". Would that be a problem? Military needs "practical training" sometimes too

[binTravkin]

It is Vox, which means way slower turn times

[Lacero]

fighting purely for experience is not allowed, if that's what you mean by practical training.

oh yeah, I forgot that's why we're killing Bananas

[Impaler[WrG]]

Franky I'd like to see as many teams eliminated as possible to speed this game up. We want to finish before Civ 5 is released. Hopefully, Horde and Bananas are the first to go, Vox we have strategic reasons for keeping around purely to thwart Storm.

If we drop down to 4 teams were looking at almost doubling the play rate.

[binTravkin]

I think more-than-doubling because the biggest teams - us, GS, Sarantium and Mercs, as well as Horde are playing quite quickly.
Bananas and Vox are the most problematic teams.

[binTravkin]

People, we might need to reassign our worker who made mine to something else, because the soonest time we can strike the 3rd city is 10 turns, which means, there's enough of time to build the road even for the first worker who's working on it.
That's actually quite good news for our third city.

[Mart]

Great People strategy
At this point, it would be good to have a Great Prophet asap to build Yangism Shrine. We have Oracle helping, but Beijing will have several options (mostly engineer and prophet). Is there any way to increase our Great Prophet chance? Maybe another city would have a priest specialist to get one in some future?

[-SafaN-]

well i think the best path is organized religion -> make a prophet in xian or tassagrad -> infest beijing -> whip temple/monastery

[Mart]

you mean to have priests in Beijing? Great Prophet won't have a chance close to 100 % in there. Is Beijing going to be our GP farm?