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  • I agree with SP; we are not in a position to back up Sullla's words with actions, and just risk Imperio calling our bluff. just the single sentence is my preferred option.

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    • Well, of course we would need some time to mobilize our troops. The will feel the wrath of TRB a few turns later.

      I am fine with warning them off.
      Gives us a casus belli, that is good for another 15 turns or so.

      mh

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      • what about ...

        "But a word of warning: if you wish to live in peace, do not send spies into our territory to sabotage our resources. Any future sabotage will been seen as an aggressive act."
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        • Again, I think that, by repeating the sentiment of the first sentence, the second one makes it look like we'll react when they next sabotage.

          I'd stick to the minimalist approach, and we must send this today, though I'm off out soon, so someone else will need to send the email.

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          • What about:

            But a word of warning: if you wish to live in peace, do not send spies into our territory to sabotage our resources. We will regard any future sabotage as a violation of our NAP.

            This takes out the hollow military threat, but still threatens diplomatic consequences. If they try to defend literal interpretation of espionage not being acts of war, we could escalate the diplomatic argument to other teams (worsening their reputation) and show everybody that Imperio's English is good enough to argue about fine points of diplomatic agreements. (Destroying Imperio's "me no speak English good" excuse.)

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            • I agree that this would accomplish what we need it to.

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              • I don't care all that much about the exact wording, but I'd like to suggest we send something in the next 12 hours. I have held off on offering Imperio Literature in-game until we send off our email, and we've played about 10 hours of the current turn already.

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                • If there are no objections, I'll send the following 4-5 hours from now:

                  Hi Imperio,

                  Thanks for accepting the trade deal. We will ship you Literature this turn.

                  But a word of warning: if you wish to live in peace, do not send spies into our territory to sabotage our resources. We will regard any future sabotage as a violation of our NAP.

                  Team RB

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                  • Message sent.

                    Somebody please offer the deal in game.

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                    • We did offer Literature last turn, right? It's just that Imperio only logged in for a couple of minutes very early.

                      Do we wait for them to offer/demand the trade in-game?

                      mh

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                      • They don't have literature - I offered the trade (again?) just now.

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                        • Yes, I definitely offered them Literature last turn, for free. I guess that whoever logged into the game rejected the deal (?)

                          Honestly, what is this team thinking? Their latest research was.... COMPASS?!? Perfect for us, since we can get that from Banana anyway. Aren't they planning on going to war with us? Maybe a tech like, ya know, Engineering or Guilds would be good to have?

                          All the better for us.

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                          • When I logged in there was a message from Imperio, simply saying "". I guess that means thanks for the tech.

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                            • Shall we offer Imperio a simple NAP for 50 turns starting on T120? No cooling off period, no auto-renewal, not a bell or whistle in sight. Maybe they'll accept, maybe not. I have no idea, and neither do they

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                              • From the civstats it looks like Imperio accepted our Literature offer. They also gave in to a tech demand from Templars (Templars score goes up by 12points (classical tech) after Imperio logs in).
                                Scenario A: Templars got Compass from Imperio as part of the MC deal.
                                Scenario B: Templars got HBR from Imperio by threatening them to give in to our deal. "If you want us to continue MC from RB we need HBR from you".

                                mh

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