Salonika

[Aramis]

Hello,

Historical inaccuracies abound in CIV, yet are totally unimportant and, really, shouldn't cause transglobal warfare among fans of the game.

Edit city names--make up new ones, or make them culturally accurate.

The AI's civs: I care not what the names are. They are not the real nations/cultures, and the names are just handles Firaxis gave so I don't need to remember one civ as the Militaristic-Religious One With A High Level of Aggression, and another as Whatever.

I don't play CIV when I want to be serious. I play for the fun in it.

Unsettling thread, this one was, but a bit interesting to read on a cold morning.

[The Pioneer]

Originally posted by PLATO1003
Pioneer, Your view of Americans is stereotypical and very ill informed. Becoming the major economic, cultural, and military power in the world does not happen with a population full of ignorant people. Ignorance abounds throughout the world in many different forms. It is true that The US has a wide range of peoples...some ARE ignorant, but never doubt that the majority know what we are about and how to make it happen.

Did you read my post through? I pretty much came to the same coclusion as you did. You have to admit though that a huge percentage of the high school kids in the States do not really know or care to know where is what and what is happening out there! Which is not necessarily a bad thing.

So long...

PS: There are more reasons than smart people for the wealth, prosperity and world dominationof the US has now or other empires in years past.

[Centauri18]

I agree with Anaton on this point, too. We shouldn't feel upset about this whole thing. I mean, if given the option, couldn't the ENglish build "New York"? And the French could build New Orleans. It doesn't bother me at all.

[Phobos]

Just ignore this post. I made a mistake. Terribly sorry about this!

[Palaiologos]

I was just wondering how many people are interested in continuing this conversation in an off-topic thread. I declined from answering to the posts above because of Ming's threats of banning me and perhaps others.

Since i do not want to get myself or others banned, i propose that the conversation continues off-topic.

Requirment: At least four people must post here or pm me, or whatever.

I will then open a new off-topic thread for the discussion to be continued anew.


All on-topic arguments have been told anyway.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Azeem
There are some seriously stupid Americans. But on the other hand, you'll find some people (unfortunately, we're not too much of a majority) that do know what is going on and a significant amount of history and prespectives.

Sad thing is the smart ones don't hold public office.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by The Pioneer


Did you read my post through? I pretty much came to the same coclusion as you did. You have to admit though that a huge percentage of the high school kids in the States do not really know or care to know where is what and what is happening out there! Which is not necessarily a bad thing.

I think the important word here is "care". Being a superpower makes you complacent, so much wealth gives no reason to see what's up outside your borders. Thats what I think. I've lived for some time in the US and found it amazing how little time is given to world events in the local news.

[Anaton]

Originally posted by Palaiologos

Since i do not want to get myself or others banned, i propose that the conversation continues off-topic.



I will then open a new off-topic thread for the discussion to be continued anew.

Sure.... and when you do link us up from here

[The Pioneer]

Spot on Master Zen! That's one of the reasons that people remain "unaaware" of the rest of the world.

So long...

PS: Palaiologos, I am afraid that if you move the discussion to the OT Forum it will turn into a hate/spam thread but you can try it. Post the link on this thread.

[Palaiologos]

hate/spam thread? Perhaps....


If two more people post their interest in continuing the discussion, i will open the thread.

P.S what is spam?

[makka]

Multinational cultures simply do not last?

Why hasn't Switzerland split years ago? And Belgium? Italy hasn't looked likely to return to it's city states recently. And for Quebec is still part of Canada.
If people want to live togeter with other cultures, then they can. Earlier in this thread it was quoted that more then one in ten Greeks were of different ethnic groups. It may not be a situation without tension, but I suspect that those 'immigrants' will settle into Greek society over time.

[The Mad Monk]

As an American, I have to say that it is obvious to any who care to look that Firaxis, an American company, is utterly biased in the city lists it provided.

There are, after all, far too many Californian cites in the American list!

[PLATO]

Palaiologos- This has been one of the more interesting threads. I would welcome you opening an OT thread.

makka: Don't forget the US is made up of people from many different cultures. I don't know if you would call it multi-cultural though...the US culture prevades. (Perhaps multi-ethnic??) We don't seem to have the problems many other cultures have. Maybe Master Zen is correct, we just don't care if it doesn't effect us.

Perhaps the worry that most have is that their culture is not strong enough to withstand outside influences. Or maybe they just do not want their culture to change and adapt. US culture is certainly not the same that it was even 20 years ago. Influx of new ideas and the willingness to accept them is the key.

Now I had better stop before I get banned! See ya in the OT Forum!!!

[PLATO]

Mad Monk: Absolutely!

[Master Zen]

BTW, if it were so biased, why did the Aztecs get the most Great Leaders?? Even I don't know who some of those guys were.