30% Iron Civer Tournament

[Rommel2D]

Originally posted by snoopy369
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Perhaps simply "The Worthington maneuver (speficically taking advantage of city disorder to add population to a city beyond what it normally would be allowed) and any other maneuver specifically designed to work around the prohobition on wonder-rushing shall be banned. Tactics that may skirt close to this rule should be discussed either with the players or a neutral third party beforehand. This is not designed to prevent a player from doing damage to his own city to build a wonder, as that is a legal strategy, nor from adding population to a city in the normal method (worker adding, up to the city's ability to support itself with food), but to prevent using exploits and exploit-like tactics to rush a wonder faster than a city should be able to produce it."
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You have a very interesting interpretation of what 'simply' indicates. Are you a law student by any chance?

[Rommel2D]

Originally posted by Aqualung71
I think I already indicated that I think it's too frivolous. That's my vote anyway

Your reply to Snoopy sounded like you were reconsidering...

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by Rommel2D

You have a very interesting interpretation of what 'simply' indicates. Are you a law student by any chance?

I seriously doubt it.....no law student would spell "prohibition" incorrectly

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by Rommel2D

Your reply to Snoopy sounded like you were reconsidering...

No, not at all....simply a logical extension to the proposed ban, which doesn't change my opinion about the suggested ban in the first place.

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by Rommel2D
as in there should be a definitive answer to the Where to Hold Discussions (+AARs ;-)? problem soon...

Whatever happened to this? Any progress on the AAR's for the completed IC Colosseums?

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Aqualung71
Ummm....have I missed something, or did this happen a month ago?

welcome to the twilight forum

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by Aqualung71
Ummm....have I missed something, or did this happen a month ago?

Iron Civer like any other paper driven inefficient bureaocracy is inherintly slow.

Actually a month is quite fast considering

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Aqualung71


I seriously doubt it.....no law student would spell "prohibition" incorrectly

Economist, not law student. And i was TIRED... have to get up at 6am to go to work every day

[Rommel2D]

Originally posted by conmcb25
Iron Civer like any other paper driven inefficient bureaocracy is inherintly slow.

Uh-oh, it looks like con found his way into my office somehow and has seen the hallowed IC mastersheet! I'd suggest no further posting of game turns in the threads lest we risk a breech in security...

[jshelr]

Request for Supreme Court Ruling

Expansionist civ A on a very large map pops a settler close to civ B, a friendly civ with a good trading relationship.

A deal is worked where the leader of civ A founds a city near civ B, without telling its citizens that they will ultimately live in civ B. Civ B promises to send two diligent workers to civ A using a fancy teleporting capability that it's ancient mystics have apparently discovered. Civ B plans eventually to send a military unit over to acquaint the citizens of the town with their new allegiance after a period of time to allow them to get used to the area.

Any rules broken?

[Moonbars]

i'd say that's fine, but I am not the supreme court!

[alexman]

I always forget the restrictions on city trading in the etiquette.

So it doesn't look like it's legal, because there is no way for the city to change hands without breaking either rule 1-1 (They shall not declare frivilous wars), or rule 2-2 (cities may be offered diplomatically only as part of a peace treaty).

[Moonbars]

I guess so.. It seems to me that the rules where not designed to stop this kind of play, however.

[Rommel2D]

Actually, the core point of 2-2 was to prevent exploiting the 'weird teleportation' effects of city trading. The maneuver above seems intended to exploit a similar teleportation process so that tribe A does not have to waste time moving the settler back near it's own lands.

Because of the points mentioned above by alexman, The exchange above would go against IC etiquette...

[jshelr]

the teleporting part is hard wired as worker exchanges. however, i agree with the court's analysis. seemed fishy.

never hurts to ask