1.29F Download - Feeback - Bugs reporting

[ACTD_Ran]

I'm just wondering. Do I have to install the 1.21F patch before installing this 1.29F patch?

Another thing... How do I change my 'settler' thing under my name to something else?

[Deathwalker]

I'm just wondering. Do I have to install the 1.21F patch before installing this 1.29F patch?

No you don't have to install any of the older patches before installing the new one 1.29F
Though it is a good idea if you already have the old one uninstall it first then install the new one

[player1]

Re: No CD

Originally posted by JoeinBH
Sorry to come to the defense of someone going by the name of Pungent, but NoCD patches can be a lifesaver...

I don't have any problems with no-cd fixes.

The only problem here was just that posting links to such fixes is against rules of these forums.

[Alex]

Originally posted by ACTD_Ran
Another thing... How do I change my 'settler' thing under my name to something else?

From the FAQ:

"Each poster has a status shown under his username. That is depended by his post count, like this:
-Settler 1-30
-Chieftain 31-100
-Warlord 101-300
-Prince 301-1000
-King 1001-3000
-Emperor 3001-10000
-Deity 10001+
Note: this system is not intended to rank people in any way. It is only meant to give a "civish" modd on the forums. A few, specific, special posters have their own status so that they are easily recognized. For example Brian Reynolds has a "Big Huge Games President" status."

Here is the link:

http://apolyton.net/forums/misc.php?s=&action=faq&page=4#45

[ACTD_Ran]

Ahh! I see. But I found how to change the other stuff. Thanks!

But I just want to be one of the most important 'people' in the game... The Workers! I'd like to see it changed to 'personal preferance' and to include workers

[Dimension]

Come on, guys. The very beginning of this thread specifically says that this is not the place for editor feedback, but that's almost all I see. I hope somebody actually notices the legitimate bugs that have been reported.

In my first 1.29F game, I noticed these bugs:

Still a bug: The "Video Mode=" setting in Civilization3.Ini has not worked since 1.17F, but it is still listed as a feature in the README. "KeepRes=1" works, but it's tedious having to change your desktop resolution every time you play.

Still a bug: If you play in a high resolution, every time you load a game, the edges of the screen will reveal the last map you were playing. That is, if you don't want to cheat, you have to restart Civ3 every time you load a game.

The Civilopedia link Main > Game Concepts > Power Plants > Nuclear Plant is bad. You can still get to Nuclear Plant by going to City Improvements > Nuclear Plant.

Here's a picture of what happens if you load a game twice in a row in 1600x1200:

[Deathwalker]

Freaky
I was wandering is there plans for another patch prior to PTW and if so. Will it get the AI to artillery

[jkelly]

New for 1.29: Trade-screen Gold bug

1.29 on Win2K, Deity.

If one arranges a deal that involves gold in the transaction, and then hits 'Esc' to back out, when the deal is returned to the 'Gold' section of the table of offers is "greyed-out", meaning whatever gold was on the table is now fixed.

Work-around: Back up out of the deal and start over.

Can someone confirm?

[whosurdaddy]

Possible editor bug??

Ok, i'm pretty sure that this is a bug with the editor not working properly. Basically, i'm trying to make it so that foreign citizens assymilate very quickly into the culture of who conquered them in order to reduce amounts of culture flipping in the game.

So, I set the assymlation rates to 90% for each government type, but even after 20 or 30 turns, enemy citizens in cities which i have conquered from the AI are still retaining their old nationality, and this is even after the resistance has ended. With these settings, shouldnt the enemy citizens in my recently conquered cities be assymlating into my culture in 1 or 2 turns at the most?

It seems to me like the assymlation rate option in the editor is not working properly.

Dan, am i right??? or do i just not understand what this button is supposed to do???

[Bodiless Jack]

Genuine bug report - at least for me anyway

Civ III has caused an error and will close!!
I got this error during a game last night. I had just newlly installed the 1.29 patch and wanted to try editing the rules by adding a new unit. I added the peltast unit but called it Javelin and gave it to Greece. The problem doesn't seem to be with the new unit (I can build this unit ok and fight with it etc.) it's this: I'm in war with Egypt. The war has run its course and I want to end it (extracting as much tech and gold from Cleo in the peace terms of course). However, every time I try to enter diplomatic negotiations with Egypt the game crashes!! I've never had this occur before the new patch (in many, many hours of game play). The error is repeatable everytime whether you right-click an Egyptian unit or go to the Foreign Adviser screen and double click Cleo and even after they contact me (they're obviously screaming for peace) and I agree to speak to them. I can contact all the other civs ok. The only work around I can see is to eradicate the Egyptians (that wouldn't be nice, would it?).
I will post the sav file if anyone would care to look at it.

[Ozymandous]

Re: No CD

Originally posted by JoeinBH
Sorry to come to the defense of someone going by the name of Pungent, but NoCD patches can be a lifesaver. A couple of weeks ago, my fiance thought that I was spending just a bit too much time on Civ, so she broke the CD in half. Literally! I purchased the right to the intellectual property that is Civ3. That intellectual property remains on my computer, and I'm darn glad a patch allows me to access it. Otherwise, I might have actually gotten mad at the fiance. There is 1) nothing wrong and 2) nothing illegal with this limited use of NoCD patches (she also broke my Metal of Honor CD, so I got the patch for that as well). Furthermore, I reviewed the usage rules for this forum and found no written, objective basis for removing Pungent's patch. If Ming has a cite otherwise, I'd be interested in seeing it.

Joe

Ah well, you DO know that you should be able to send the original CD's back and get a replacement right? Since virtually all game software companies will let you do this, IF you send them back the original CD, there is NO excuse to use a no-cd crack AT ALL.

What's your next lame excuse?

[Trelane]

Civ Editor bug

Whenever I load a BIC file and save it, the file shrinks in size by almost 90%. This happens whether or not I make any modifications and whether or not I replace the original file or save it as a different file. I tested this on Firaxis' stock standard Earth map, Norm's Europe (still need more resources, Norm), and Kitten of Chaos' huge Earth map.

One wonders what is getting lost in the process. While playing on a modified Kitten map I discovered that the rate of barbarian generation rose astronomically - about 900 barb horsemen scattered about Indonesia, Australia, and South America by 200 AD. (Didn't count the barb galleys and warriors.) Never saw this happen under 1.17f.

[Level]

The BICs are now Compested to save space, there is nothing lost.

[Dimension]

Another bug I found...

It's a little obnoxious the way airplanes automatically fortify (go to sleep, whatever) if you don't use them for a turn. But, if that happens when you leave a Carrier in a city for a turn to repair, all the planes on the Carrier will stay in the city when you leave again. That is, when a Carrier stays in a city, you will have to waste a turn to re-base your bombers onto the Carrier again after it leaves the city.

[Dimension]

Re: Re: No CD

Originally posted by Ozymandous
...there is NO excuse to use a no-cd crack AT ALL.
What's your next lame excuse?

PLEASE. Give me a break.

I bought a legitimate copy of Civ3. I also made a backup copy of Civ3, and it works perfectly. Even if you use low-quality software to copy the CD and it doesn't work right, you can still download a crack for it easily. It takes about 3 seconds to do a web search and find such a crack.

The point is that requiring you to have the CD in the drive does absolutely nothing to prevent piracy. To the contrary, it is just an inconvenience to people who own a legitimate copy, because if you're going to pirate it, you're going to use a crack (or else you will download a pre-cracked version of the software, which usually is available before the official release of the software).

I have two computers at my desk hooked up to a KVM switch. I have Civ3 installed on each machine. Sometimes I'll have the faster machine doing something very CPU-intensive, and I'll want to play Civ3 on the other machine. It is very convenient for me to just install the no-CD patch, even though I could just use my backup copy in the other machine. I'm certainly not breaking any laws, because I'm never even using Civ3 on two different machines at the same time. Even if you never do anything else with your computer and can just leave the Civ3 CD in all the time, the no-CD patch is worth it just because it keeps you from having to wait for the drive to spin-up.

I own Civ3. I paid my $50. As much as some people complain about little things in Civ3, I was glad to give my support to Firaxis for developing a great game. I don't play games that often, and SMAX, Civ 3, Diablo 2, Gran Turismo 3, and Grand Theft Auto 3 are the only things I've played at all in the past two years (well, a little Civ2 to warm up for Civ3). Still, I'd rather not have to install an additonal CD-ROM drive for every piece of software I own just so I don't have to get out the CD when I want to use it. How would you feel if Microsoft Office asked you to put the CD-ROM in the drive every time you started Word? How would you feel if Windows asked for the CD every time you rebooted? REQUIRING THE CD IS RIDICULOUS.

Does anybody really think this so-called copy-protection feature is keeping people from pirating the game? I'm pretty disappointed in Firaxis for including it. Alpha Centauri didn't require the CD. Alien Crossfire did, but guess what -- I've got the no-CD patch for that, too.

As I said, I do own Civ3. I bought it at Electronics Botique the day it came out. Maybe putting in the CD isn't that big an inconvenience, but this is a game. It's something I do to relax. That somehow just makes it more annoying having to dig out the CD. The game's already fully installed on my computer, but it has to ask for the CD just to "keep me honest". Give me a break. When 1.29F came out, I didn't install it on Friday. I waited till the next Tuesday when the crack was posted on major websites. I suppose at least Firaxis has SOME sort of excuse for including the CD-check. Blizzard put a CD-check on Diablo 2, and you can't even play online without having the CD-key anyway, so there's no point (unless you play single-player Diablo, and I've never heard of anybody doing that).

OK, I'm not actually particularly upset about Civ3 checking for the CD. The fact is, however, that it IS an inconvenience. I have several things in my life which prevent me from sitting down and playing Civ for 20 hours straight, so I have to save, quit, and do other things. I keep my computer shut in my desk drawer, and I keep my CD's in a bookshelf. I will continue to use the no-CD hack because I can. I defy anybody to find a legitimate reason why anybody should have to put the CD in their computer to play it.

All of this is completely off-topic, but I felt the need to reply.